Buying a cheap 4x4

might be a bit small but for that price range you could find a nissan terano. alsi see if a daihatsu terios can work
 
Garson007 said:
Pajeros from the era also tend to have over-heating issues over long treks at this age (anecdotal evidence). So keep that in mind.
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If it's a known issue I'm sure there are solutions out their to prevent this, a quick google will tell you.
 
Land Rover Discovery 2 - Best value for money

Go with a V8. They have less issues. Look for one with at least 200-250k km on.
The only issues with the v8 was dropped liner on some engine. If it made it to 200k km then the engine is fine.
Parts are reasonably cheap. Dover in jhb sells new parts, and there is quite a few 2nd parts dealers.
LandyWorx in Randburg I heard is a very good to mechanic when it comes to anything land rover.

Check out the 4x4 forum and google around for Disco 2 buying guides.
Like buying any old 2nd hand car, do you're research.
http://www.discovery2.co.uk/
http://4x4community.co.za/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=136

The disco 2 has a longer body than the disco 1. The rear approach angle on the Disco 1 is better.

The 99 Range Rover HSE is a P38. The very nice but heavy on the juice ( ave 5km/l). They are also filled with electronics (about 5 computers). Stay out of water. Common problems are air suspension, blender motors on the climate control, heater matrix that leak, radiator has to be replaced at 10y/200 000km, plastic expansion bottle needs to be replaced. Service is cheaper than a VW Tdi. Dover for new parts and Rangies.co.za for the rest. Parts are quite cheap compared to the newer cars today. Few very expensive bits. Yes, I own one, Love it to bits! :love:
 
BTW ... http://www.landyfestival.co.za/ this weekend :p

Look at a Defender for serious over-landing. They can be kitted out quite nicely. Then again ... you could probably do the same to the Disco.

Stick with a V8. They have less issues. (on most makes.)
The new Diesel engines are very finicky about what diesel you put in them. They are more expensive to maintain, injectors and diesel pump will go at some stage and they cost more upfront.
Rather buy a cheaper V8 vehicle and spend the extra money on petrol. :p
 
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Considering that you are only going to be using it occasionally, would renting not be an option? This is typically R1k to R1.5k per day if you are not too ambitious. You can then save on maintenance and insurance and avoid having to find place in the garage.
 
spiderz said:
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Thanks so much for all that info. Really useful :) I've read that the Disco 2 is more electronic and therefore the Disco 1 is the better buy... Is this correct?

garyc said:
Considering that you are only going to be using it occasionally, would renting not be an option? This is typically R1k to R1.5k per day if you are not too ambitious. You can then save on maintenance and insurance and avoid having to find place in the garage.
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I've got parking space:D... If I rent for two weeks a year it comes up to at least R42k over 3 years... At this stage, if I buy one, it will be in Bots for at least 3 months from now and will be in use by my brother. Then in terms of costs for maintenance and all, once I've paid for the rental, I've got no asset left whereas I will if I buy the car... And once its reached such a low value, depreciation is so minimal the value won't go down by much in the time I've got it... So my feeling is, it makes more sense to buy than rent
 
ahoudet said:
Thanks so much for all that info. Really useful :) I've read that the Disco 2 is more electronic and therefore the Disco 1 is the better buy... Is this correct?
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Not really. They both have electronics. The Disco 2 just have a bit more.
The Disco 2's is better value for money except if you can find a very cheap disco 1 in good condition.
The Disco 1 will be a better off-road vehicle, because of better departure angles at the back. Disco 2 will a bit lighter on juice due to better electronics, better, newer interior.

I would buy a late model V8 Disco 2 facelift.(2004) The ultimate would be a 2004 Disco 2 with a 4.6 Thor motor :D

Discovery 1 : Production 1989–1998
Discovery II : Production 1998–2004
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Discovery
 
Garson007 said:
Land Rovers are notoriously unreliable. I'd stay away.
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Not sure which Land Rovers you are talking about?

Yes, maybe the expensive Discovery 3 and 4 have issues, but the older Defenders etc are pretty bulletproof.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Not sure which Land Rovers you are talking about?

Yes, maybe the expensive Discovery 3 and 4 have issues, but the older Defenders etc are pretty bulletproof.
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Don't you know that on MyBB, we experts tar all models with the same brush?? ;) :p
 
ToxicBunny said:
Not sure which Land Rovers you are talking about?

Yes, maybe the expensive Discovery 3 and 4 have issues, but the older Defenders etc are pretty bulletproof.
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Disco 3 TDV6 has issues (diesel). The Disco 3 V8's are better, with the Disco 4's having even less problems.
Can't say no problems, because all cars have problems. (and there always seem to be a dud somewhere ...)
The Freelander 1 was the one with all the issues. Still amazed at how many of them are still on the road today.
 
ahoudet said:
Requirements for the car will be:
- Average of 10 000km a year at most
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Why this requirement?
I once had a used vehicle which I salesman had used. He clocked up a lot of distance in a short amount of time on long trips.
Other than a coolant leak which I fixed the engine was in very good nick because of it's easy life on the open road.

What you're basically asking for is a 4x4 that has driven mostly short short trips in most likely stop-start traffic.
 
Paul_S said:
Why this requirement?
I once had a used vehicle which I salesman had used. He clocked up a lot of distance in a short amount of time on long trips.
Other than a coolant leak which I fixed the engine was in very good nick because of it's easy life on the open road.

What you're basically asking for is a 4x4 that has driven mostly short short trips in most likely stop-start traffic.
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The 10 000km is what I'll be driving

Rouxenator said:
Rental car?
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Mentioned above - costs involved aren't worth it
 
honda crv gen 1.
the import b20 engines for them are 2500 at the import engine shops!

besides- its a honda!
 
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