Buying a PC makes no sense: Apple CEO

jackshiels said:
As much as you guys will hate on Cook, the reality is that people in the industry have been seeing this coming for a while.

The purpose of the "desktop computer" will eventually fade away to include content producers and enthusiasts (gamers, PC builders).

The average user will own a tablet. I mean, why not? They are cheaper, easier to use, portable, better looking, less hassle to maintain etc. Computers as they are right now are very technical devices.

Simplicity will triumph. Of course PCs will keep selling, but the average non-technical user will buy a tablet over a PC 100x over.
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Which is where a device like the Surface 3 comes in, it does both very well.
we have two of them in our office and they are seriously awesome.
 
icyrus said:
The Mac has more limited design software than linux? What type of design are you referring to because it certainly can't be graphical or UI design.
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More product design stuff. Nastran, Patran, Abaqus, Simulia CAE and various process modelling packages.
 
Is Tim Cook retarded? Macs can't play games for s**t and are ridiculously expensive and he's asking why someone would buy a PC?
 
SauRoNZA said:
I don't even know why I'm bothering responding, because you obviously put no thought into your statement or even read what it's all about.

The comments are specific to the iPad Pro...which comes with a 12.9-inch screen and a full keyboard not an on-screen one with half a monitor.

Which is precisely why the comments are made because his argument is that it offers the "full pc experience" that you are referring to.


I'm not saying I agree with him...but please do your research before mouthing off with bull****.
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Fine then, "Who's faster, the guy with a full size mechanical keyboard and dual monitors, or the guy with an piss-poor keyboard and a 12.9" screen."

Like most people who actually get shìt done, I use 2 x 24" 1920 x 1200 (ie, professional) monitors, and the only reason I haven't upgraded one of them to a 32" 4K, is price. Maybe you do nothing but send emails all day, but open anything bigger than a garden shed in AutoCAD, and you'll see why real work gets done on real systems.

Thor187 said:
Can we give this man some more Vodka Please!

Amen!!

I always thought I am the only one with this opinion, when someone pops out a tablet to "work" on I vomit a little bit inside my mouth.
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"work" indeed.

cerebus said:
If the person can do their work perfectly well on a tablet, what's the problem? I could probably be quite productive for say 60% of my job on a tablet, and under certain circumstances it would be nicer than a laptop. For instance, if I had a hammock out in the garden and I wanted to lie in the shade and work an iPad would be lekker. Right now I'm at home in an office chair working, but I'm quite restricted in having a huge desktop PC.
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I don't see my staff being productive in hammocks.

Neoprod said:
A nice experiment to do...give everyone in the organisation a tablet with basic software to work on and ask them to use that exclusively.

Then fire 1 in 2 of every email monkey who's happy with that arrangement :twisted:
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Exactly. If you're happy with a tablet, you're not really working.
 
Drunkard #1 said:
I don't see my staff being productive in hammocks.
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And as always you extrapolated from your working requirements to the needs of everybody else. I could be perfectly productive in a hammock, for doing certain aspects of my job. Not for all of it though, sometimes I do need my 24" screens. I could imagine that for certain managerial/business-y, fast-paced travel intensive jobs, an iPad Pro would be ideal.

I'm not saying I agree with Tim Cook though - I think like you he's taken his own needs and made them the needs of everyone else.
 
The implication here is that Tim Cook just threw Apple's Mac division under the bus...he's trying to slight the PC but the discerning reader should be seeing greater parallels with the Macbook than the PC - the iPad Pro is logically a more direct competitor to the Macbook than the PC due to both offering access to the Apple ecosystem (rather than x86 software).
 
cerebus said:
If the person can do their work perfectly well on a tablet, what's the problem? I could probably be quite productive for say 60% of my job on a tablet, and under certain circumstances it would be nicer than a laptop. For instance, if I had a hammock out in the garden and I wanted to lie in the shade and work an iPad would be lekker. Right now I'm at home in an office chair working, but I'm quite restricted in having a huge desktop PC.
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Tablets and the likes has its place for sure.

My Gripe is with these people who's primary workstation is a laptop them boast being a developer


Those irritating hipsters wh thrive on WordPress
 
Thor187 said:
Tablets and the likes has its place for sure.

My Gripe is with these people who's primary workstation is a laptop them boast being a developer


Those irritating hipsters wh thrive on WordPress
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I work on a laptop and I'm a Cad Designer.
Sometimes the laptop is more than powerful for the task.
 
Thor187 said:
Tablets and the likes has its place for sure.

My Gripe is with these people who's primary workstation is a laptop them boast being a developer


Those irritating hipsters wh thrive on WordPress
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That's just stupid.
 
Thor187 said:
Tablets and the likes has its place for sure.

My Gripe is with these people who's primary workstation is a laptop them boast being a developer


Those irritating hipsters wh thrive on WordPress
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Yeah, some people think "lifestyle blogger" or "makeup advice Youtuber" is "real work". Normally the same type of people that get all pissy when a sane person mentions that you can't do real work on a tablet. The Surface Pro is the closest, but still not quite there.
 
I have not had any luck using my iPad for productive work. The first major obstacle is the lack of a file manager. Apple will need to address this if they want to push their stated agenda.
 
Bryn said:
Is Tim Cook retarded? Macs can't play games for s**t and are ridiculously expensive and he's asking why someone would buy a PC?
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DOTA 2, CS:Go and TF2 are just about the most popular games on steam, and all of which run pretty well on a Mac.
Sure your MacBook Pro won't run Fallout 4, but then again, most laptops on the market won't run it either.
 
garyc said:
I have not had any luck using my iPad for productive work. The first major obstacle is the lack of a file manager. Apple will need to address this if they want to push their stated agenda.
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With my new job the product is web based and we have Office 365 which does a lot to close the gap of requiring local files. Right now I could just about get away with needing only a browser window and Office access.... Juuuuuuuust.
 
Drunkard #1 said:
Fine then, "Who's faster, the guy with a full size mechanical keyboard and dual monitors, or the guy with an piss-poor keyboard and a 12.9" screen."

Like most people who actually get shìt done, I use 2 x 24" 1920 x 1200 (ie, professional) monitors, and the only reason I haven't upgraded one of them to a 32" 4K, is price. Maybe you do nothing but send emails all day, but open anything bigger than a garden shed in AutoCAD, and you'll see why real work gets done on real systems.
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Like I said I wasn't agreeing with Tim Cook but disagreeing with your incorrect statement.

You are in a highly specialist scenario by virtue of mentioning AutoCAD so therefore your idea of "work" doesn't apply to most. I wouldn't be able to do my own work very well on an iPad Pro either...I would be able to, but as you illustrated I would be much "faster" on a full system.


However had I been a journalist? I think then an iPad Pro would be very well suited to the job.

An Artist? Chuck out that Wacom and let me have at that stylus pen thing.

Youtuber? Hmm I think you could do a fair share of video editing from that iPad or Surface. Wouldn't know, haven't tried.

Executives and the like who do send emails all day with a bit of Office maybe? They would be very very happy on an iPad Pro.


Fact is, especially as IT professionals that most of us are, we are very set in our ways and want to just keep doing things the way we've always done them. Doesn't mean there aren't other better ways that are applicable to other people more so than ourselves.
 
Thor187 said:
My Gripe is with these people who's primary workstation is a laptop them boast being a developer
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The guys using laptops are tired of all the posers whose primary workstation is a desktop machine.
 
Ohh this guy trying to push his overpriced products. It makes no sense really to spend so much and get so little
 
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