Cabinet cans own pay hikes

I feel and IMHO, that politicians should have the lowest salary available, because then you would actually get people that want to make a difference in this country. You have to serve your country, and as I am their employer, I feel that they should actually get a pay cut!!
 
BobbyMac said:
It is my understanding that they realigned their findings to include private sector comparisons as well, i.e. they included comparisons with company executives. Be that as it may, the top politicians are very well looked after in this country. From police escorts to exclusive use of military and private aircraft and massive housing subsidies, they live it up. Not to mention the many private business interests most of them participate in. Comparatively the salary they get paid may look a little underweight when compared internationally, but the perks far outweigh the salary.
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Interesting, dunno how you can align your salary ront for ront against the private sector, especially when you consider the perks government some officials are entitled to. Smacks of greed and nothing else.
Would really like to see a breakdown of it all one day.
If I was the union I would have these facts on the front page of every newspaper possible, and as many times as possible.
 
chiskop said:
You imagine or you know?

US congresstypes earn $165000 pa, about R1.2 mill. British MP's earn the equivalent of R840 000. SA MP's earn R650 000 pa before any increase.
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Yep but suppose it could also be argued that British and American MP's in general deserve their salaries.. Do you think Ivy deserves to earn 1.2 million a year? Or Jeff, or Manto?
 
I'm sorry to say, but you ppl are oh so gullable... do you really think they are not going to get those huge increases...

Its all political.

They might not increase their salary by 57%... but rather they will be receiving perks which will be equal or more than their pay hike.

MBeki is just saying this to end the strike.

Please ppl, I thought we had intelligent ppl on this forum.
 
janp03s said:
I'm sorry to say, but you ppl are oh so gullable... do you really think they are not going to get those huge increases...

Its all political.

They might not increase their salary by 57%... but rather they will be receiving perks which will be equal or more than their pay hike.

MBeki is just saying this to end the strike.

Please ppl, I thought we had intelligent ppl on this forum.
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What's your problem? It's only government money.
 
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janp03s said:
I'm sorry to say, but you ppl are oh so gullable... do you really think they are not going to get those huge increases...

Its all political.

They might not increase their salary by 57%... but rather they will be receiving perks which will be equal or more than their pay hike.

MBeki is just saying this to end the strike.

Please ppl, I thought we had intelligent ppl on this forum.
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1) And they dont get perks already? "Borrowing" an airplane to go on holiday?
2) We can hope that the leaders of the unions are intelligent enough to NOT fall for that
3) I am confident that if the pay increase comes through next month, COSATU will SCREAM.

While I am not gullible enough to believe everything I hear, I am confident enough that the leaders (not the members) of the unions are not stupid enough to believe it all either.
 
oh well. Now I remember why I prefer to be a realist with African Politics.

President Thabo Mbeki has asked the Moseneke Commission to consider concerns from MPs, traditional leaders and magistrates about proposed pay increases, before making up his mind about the independent body's controversial wage proposals,.

This was the official word from the presidency on Thursday morning, after confusion about whether Mbeki had rejected the proposed increases for public office bearers, ranging from 5,4 percent for ordinary backbencher MPs to 53,85 percent for the president.

The increases, which also cover magistrates, traditional leaders and judges, have been latched on by public service unions in their wage negotiations with government.

"I think it is significant that the president has before coming to a determination, asked the commission to engage with the concerns of various parties." Presidential spokesperson Mukoni Rat****anga said.


He said the president had been petitioned by among others traditional leaders, MPs and magistrates about the Commission's proposals.

MPs and traditional leaders have rejected the recommendations, with MPs in particular thinking that they are receiving a bum deal in comparison to senior politicians.

These submissions had been referred to the Moseneke commission for further engagement with the parties concerned before Mbeki could make a decision, Rat****anga said.

"The president could not do anything but refer it back in the interests of fairness."

Only once the commission had taken these into account and reported back to Mbeki, would he decide, Rat****anga said.
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While I am not gullible enough to believe everything I hear, I am confident enough that the leaders (not the members) of the unions are not stupid enough to believe it all either.
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Well we will soon find. Lets all hope that at least the union leaders are at least intelligent (cause their members are NOT)
 
nivek said:
Yep but suppose it could also be argued that British and American MP's in general deserve their salaries.. Do you think Ivy deserves to earn 1.2 million a year? Or Jeff, or Manto?
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any help, do cabinet ministers not earn more than MPs ?
 
Presidency: Mbeki didn't reject salary proposals
President Thabo Mbeki on Thursday dismissed reports he has "rejected" the recommendations of the Independent Commission for the Remuneration of Public Office Bearers chaired by Justice Dikgang Moseneke. The Presidency appealed to all South Africans to familiarise themselves with the commission's processes as laid down in legislation.
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http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=311353&area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__national/
 
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