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Snyper564

Snyper564

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So we planted an Ilex Mitis early November - within 2 weeks the entire green tree lost all its leaves and I mean all. I thought transplant shock. These all grew back by mid Dec. I have since noticed some leaves wilting and dying. I dont typically watch our trees this closely but its a new one and want to make sure its happy.

Is this normal?

We have had lots of rain in Gauteng but this is in full sun which should be ok but maybe some leaves got scorched?


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Had exactly the same with 10 Cape Holly trees we planted. Not sure if it was too little water at the time or transplant shock but it looks like they stabilized now with lots of fresh growth.

Do these wilt and dry out completely?
 
maxxis said:
Had exactly the same with 10 Cape Holly trees we planted. Not sure if it was too little water at the time or transplant shock but it looks like they stabilized now with lots of fresh growth.

Do these wilt and dry out completely?
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Ok good to hear - hope its temp dont mind if its the odd batch of leaves more concerned if its the whole tree again

1. First wilt
2. Then "dry out"
3. Then fall off

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I was chatting to a friend yesterday in Rustenburg and she moved some new trees recently to new house and the trees also had a shock. I told her that when moving trees you need to make note which part is pointing North so that when replanting you orient your tree to North again. She didnt know this and said this is probably a reason why her trees went into shock

I am not sure how true this myth is, it is just something I heard somewhere a very long time ago. Maybe @WAslayer can confirm true or not as he is also a home owner with a garden
 
Pineapple Smurf said:
I was chatting to a friend yesterday in Rustenburg and she moved some new trees recently to new house and the trees also had a shock. I told her that when moving trees you need to make note which part is pointing North so that when replanting you orient your tree to North again. She didnt know this and said this is probably a reason why her trees went into shock

I am not sure how true this myth is, it is just something I heard somewhere a very long time ago. Maybe @WAslayer can confirm true or not as he is also a home owner with a garden
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I did not know this... We moved one tree and it took a massive beating. After 4 months it is still struggling.

I hope the @The_Mowgs can provide some input on how to kill off poplar stumps without affecting my Cape Hollies. They are planted next to where we took the poplars out and now the stumps started re-growing.
 
Snyper564 said:
Ok good to hear - hope its temp dont mind if its the odd batch of leaves more concerned if its the whole tree again

1. First wilt
2. Then "dry out"
3. Then fall off

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Snyper564 said:
Ok good to hear - hope its temp dont mind if its the odd batch of leaves more concerned if its the whole tree again

1. First wilt
2. Then "dry out"
3. Then fall off

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Exactly what I had. Does the majority of the branch stay alive?
 
Snyper564 said:
So we planted an Ilex Mitis early November - within 2 weeks the entire green tree lost all its leaves and I mean all. I thought transplant shock. These all grew back by mid Dec. I have since noticed some leaves wilting and dying. I dont typically watch our trees this closely but its a new one and want to make sure its happy.

Is this normal?

We have had lots of rain in Gauteng but this is in full sun which should be ok but maybe some leaves got scorched?


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Your trees are being hacked! Tree hackers...

@EvoX @proximiti99
 
Snyper564 said:
So we planted an Ilex Mitis early November - within 2 weeks the entire green tree lost all its leaves and I mean all. I thought transplant shock. These all grew back by mid Dec. I have since noticed some leaves wilting and dying. I dont typically watch our trees this closely but its a new one and want to make sure its happy.

Is this normal?

We have had lots of rain in Gauteng but this is in full sun which should be ok but maybe some leaves got scorched?


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Its 1 of 3 things, but Im not a tree expert, I grow other type of tree.

1. Water locked and water is not draining fast enough which can cause root rot.

2. Transplant show where too much soil fell from the roots

3. Pests. Check under the leaves for pests or on the stem for some scale insects which suck the life out of that part of the plant.
 
The_Mowgs said:
Its 1 of 3 things, but Im not a tree expert, I grow other type of tree.

1. Water locked and water is not draining fast enough which can cause root rot.

2. Transplant show where too much soil fell from the roots

3. Pests. Check under the leaves for pests or on the stem for some scale insects which suck the life out of that part of the plant.
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I did not know about water locking or the soil falling from the roots. Interesting.

How much do you know about killing things?
 
The_Mowgs said:
Its 1 of 3 things, but Im not a tree expert, I grow other type of tree.

1. Water locked and water is not draining fast enough which can cause root rot.

2. Transplant show where too much soil fell from the roots

3. Pests. Check under the leaves for pests or on the stem for some scale insects which suck the life out of that part of the plant.
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Think 1 is ok will likely be 2 and 3 will check for little critters - did see the odd fly which I thought was weird but will look closer
 
Pineapple Smurf said:
I was chatting to a friend yesterday in Rustenburg and she moved some new trees recently to new house and the trees also had a shock. I told her that when moving trees you need to make note which part is pointing North so that when replanting you orient your tree to North again. She didnt know this and said this is probably a reason why her trees went into shock

I am not sure how true this myth is, it is just something I heard somewhere a very long time ago. Maybe @WAslayer can confirm true or not as he is also a home owner with a garden
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Makes some sense if you think about it.

Tree would have adapted to it’s conditions over time and now suddenly it’s upended of course it’s going to shock.

To make it as close as possible to where it was before is always going to have better results.
 
maxxis said:
I did not know about water locking or the soil falling from the roots. Interesting.

How much do you know about killing things?
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People, a lot, but not really plants or trees. What do you want to have killed?
 
The_Mowgs said:
People, a lot, but not really plants or trees. What do you want to have killed?
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Have some poplar stumps that are starting to grow out again. Need something to decompose / compost them so they can die.
 
Snyper564 said:
Think 1 is ok will likely be 2 and 3 will check for little critters - did see the odd fly which I thought was weird but will look closer
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A normal house fly is ok, wont do damage but things like spider mites, aphids etc can wreak havoc.

Make sure about the water locking or perhaps root rot. Sometimes trees are also kept in a small bag or container for way too long and a root can wrap around the trunk under the soil trying to escape the confinement. When this happens you need to carefully dig and try to find that 1 root.
 
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