Can digital currency coin it?

No way it will succeed.

Only a minority of the people in this entire world are able to use the internet. The majority of people are poor.

So it's growth would always be limited as people in the villages can still get paper money but digital money? Not that easy.

Either way though Bitcoin would be bought or controlled by the world Governments if it were ever ready to be a main choice. So we would still be f'd.
 
This is just a gimmick.

So I must invest my salary and trust fund into a 'entity' with a local/online presence that looks like this: http://www.bitcoin.co.za/

Or would I rather invest my money at a company that looks like this: http://www.investec.co.za/#home.html (Physical presence and history track record excluded)


It all comes down to assurance, what assurances do I have that the institution will not just pack up one day and run with everyone's money? Can the money be invested in? Is it worth investing in? Can it be traded, i.e on the stock market?


These are just some of the non-technical questions that I would ask these people. At this point in time, I don't think it's going anywhere, secondly large companies, and governments will not allow this. period.
 
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The downward trend on that graph says a lot. :rolleyes:

What that you think it's a scam? Every currency has the highs and low but as long as people know what is going without acting like they do then we will see but digital currency can work as long as they secure it better.

Bitcoins biggest issue is the hacking and lack of security.
 
No, I don't think it is a scam, I just don't think there is any profit to be made or much future in it.
 
The idea is not to make money out of bitcoin , but instead to pay the money you have to a bank in transaction fees. If i could get all the money I have paid out in fees I could pay off my house.
 
No, I don't think it is a scam, I just don't think there is any profit to be made or much future in it.

Well bitcoins went very well from 2009 deep into 2011. There was big money to be made. If you were mining the coins there was big profit. At one point bitcoins were 1 dollar then they shot up to 40 dollars, people must have coined it when that happened and then they hovered at 13-18 dollars for a while.

I am not sure what the future holds but i still got 40 bitcoins that i mined so i hope it goes up soon :D. Could be a nice christmas if they can jump 20 dollars which they have done in the past. The nice thing is i bought my gpu's for bf 3 early and just used them for bitcoin mining so it never cost me a cent plus i got paid for bitcoin when they were at 14 dollars. Then the hacking started and people lost confidence in them.

I am also going to buy a hundred when my bonus lands in December, won't cost me much about 3-4k and i may lose it but if they jump i will make serious money.
 
Selling coins at R70 a pop if anyone wants!

Yeah, yeah, I know what the current value is, but the thing is I have them and You want them .. so that's my price.
Better get them now before the top blows off this puppy again and you wish you bought them while they were still being flogged for Cheap! ;)
 
Researchers Locate Flaw In Bitcoin Protocol

http://science.slashdot.org/story/1...tocol?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=facebook

"Researchers at Microsoft Research and Cornell identified a potential flaw in Bitcoin's transaction propagation. In a recent paper they show how miner nodes in the Bitcoin network have an incentive not to relay transactions to the rest of the network, and propose to implement a scheme that rewards nodes [PDF] for relaying messages."

http://coderrr.wordpress.com/2011/1...per-on-incentivizing-transaction-propagation/

This is a very simplified summary of the Microsoft Research paper “On Bitcoin and Red Balloons”. This summary is meant for people who already understand how the Bitcoin network and protocol function. For an overview of that see the Bitcoin Wikipedia page.

The flaw pointed out in the paper is that there is a negative incentive for miners to forward Bitcoin transactions. By not forwarding you increase the chance that you receive the transaction’s fee rather than another miner. This is not so much of an issue now as the fees usually total to much less than the 50BTC reward per block. But as the block reward diminishes in the future this negative incentive may become more of an issue.

The paper’s proposed solution is to reward nodes who forward transactions as well as nodes who solve the block in which the transaction is included. Each transaction would have a chain of its forwarding nodes attached to it. When a miner solves a block all nodes in the chains that lead the transactions in that block to the miner would be rewarded. The issue with this is that a single node can forward to itself many times to illegitimately gain more of the reward. This is called a Sybil attack.

Their solution to the Sybil attack is to give 0 reward to all nodes in a chain of forwards if the length of that chain is greater than H. This gives a negative incentive to create fake forwards to yourself in attempt to gain multiple rewards for a single transaction. Your best bet is to forward legitimately to other nodes and hope the transaction reaches a miner who solves it before the number of forwards is greater than H.

The paper determines optimal strategies in terms of values for H and the functions to divide the fee between nodes in the chain. But this is all modeled on directed trees (which have no cycles) rather than a random graph (which is what the Bitcoin network is like in reality) so it’s unknown how well it would work in practice. They leave work on random graphs for future research.

To clear up some common questions

What prevents nodes from faking/stripping the forward chain so that they can pretend as if they were the only forwarder?

The paper proposes changing the protocol so that you are must include the public key you are forwarding the transaction to and then signing it with your public key. So if the transaction was sending coins from coderrr -> sammy and the chain was coderrr, bob, alice, miner, it would look like this:
Code:
1	msg0 = sign_coderrr(coderrr->sammy, 1BTC, forwardto: bob)
2	msg1 = sign_bob(msg0, forwardto: alice)
3	msg2 = sign_alice(msg1, forwardto: miner)
Alice would not be able to recreate the initial message replacing alice for bob because she cannot sign as coderrr.

Please read the paper if you want details.

The goal here was just to summarize the paper to make it easier for people to get the gist of. I’m not arguing for or against the paper’s assumptions or conclusions.

Here is a bitcointalk forum discussion of how relevant this is to the actual Bitcoin network.
 
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