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I see that they have implemented a 3 gig cap on their website. Then i might as well stay with telkom ?!

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Moonglum
 
Ummm you find R2800 expensive compared to R3500 for Sentech? Can I have some of that wacky tabbacky you're smoking?
 
If you idiots actually took the time to read this forum before posting crap like this you would have realised they don't have a 3 gig cap imposed on it and is seriously reconsidering even having a 3 gig cap ala Telkom.

Please remember, that is only for the prelaunch phase.

Josandre/Moonglum, go read a book, maybe you'll gain double digit IQ's
 
Hi Josandre,

only point I would like to raise is that you won't just be downloading 3GB p/m with iBurst. You just get capped to 64K. Leave that running 24/7 and you end up downloading 18GB a month ( + the fast 3 GB ).

Personally I was unable to download more than 2GB a month with Sentech, even though I was connected 24/7 ( as much I was able to do this, signal kept dropping each time it rained )

So iBurst is a Win for me.
 
Yea, if you're able to pull 10 gig a month with Sentech 128k, I want to smoke what you're smoking... good **** eh?

I had the 512k package btw, and I can tell you now, took me over 3 weeks just to download 4.5 gig

Now I get 4.5 gig in 8 hours, plus there's no cap at the moment... so suck me

1 point for noone
0 for the losers who support sentech
 
Read, think and then post and get the facts straight - I support noone on this one.
I <b>was</b> on sucktech 256k that went from good,worse to absolutely disgusting.

BTW on R699 p/m the UTD is included, that is then only 699*24=16776.

"Broadband in SA is like the holy grail - everybody knows what it is but nobody has ever found it"
 
I find noone's comments quite amazing. If it's posted on the forum that there is no 3 gig cap, then it must be true. What a load of hogswallop. Are you really that gullible? The iburst web site and application forms quite clearly say that a 3Gig cap will be implemented during the test phase. You must be smoking some good stuff when you'd rather believe some anonymous poster than the company itself. Until someone from iburst offically says it, it's hearsay.
 
1. jagrab: Read noone's posts - he got it from the horse's mouth. Also, are you actually using pre-launch iBurst[?], oh wait I CAN answer that, no you aren't, otherwise you would aready have gone way past that 3Gb cap without stopping to look at MW & ADSL users in the distance behind you.

2. Josandre: as confirmed by aborg, your calcs are wrong, on the 24 month R699/pm contract you do not pay for the UTD separately, it is included in the R699 per month.
For my reasoning click here.
For pre-launch 24month contract UTD/UTC pricing click here
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Josandre</i>
<br />I'd rather stay with Sentech, which by the way, overall service has improved very much to the levels at the beginning of the launch of the service.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
WTF! Shill!?

I can't believe what I'm reading.

Sorry Jos, but I'm still on Sentech, and you are DEAD WRONG (or outright lying). There's been basically no improvements AT ALL in the last few months. "At the beginning of the launch of the service", in Feb and March, I used to ALWAYS get my full 128 (+/- 15kB/s), ALL THE TIME. But for the past several months, and still right now, I only get around 2 - 4 kB/s on anything other than local BW. In fact right now I have an http download going (with nothing else going) and it's crawling at 3.7kB/s - that's just a little faster than my old 28.8 modem. If you think we had these sub-dialup speeds "at the beginning" then you obviously weren't there "at the beginning". And I have good signal (and local is fast) so it's not a problem on my side. (Local is fast on MW, yes, but 99.9% of "the Internet" is not in South Africa.)

Sentech STILL SUCKS, bigtime. I hope nobody here is fooled by your lies.
 
From the iBurst website:

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Once the monthly allowance has been used, the burst rate will be restricted to 64kbps. Additional capacity can be purchased during the course of the month.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

So - it does not look like the 64kbps is shared - anyone know different[?] - but if its no posted on their website then they can't do it [:D] [}:)]

All that I ask is that you try out a Mac - kilps
 
Seems uploading problem is sorted now, below is what I had wanted to post, but after What IBurst Think (Management), I think I have somewhat changed my mind, so ignore my diatribe below.

<i>I'm not saying this is from the horse's mouth, this is my personal opinion</i>:

I think all bets are off until March 2005, when pre-launch comes to an end.

Based on their experience with us pre-launchers, WBS should be able to refine the packages they will be offering, and the profile/user type that those packages will be targetted at.

Examples of user types/profiles: Casual user, Business user, P2P user, Online gaming user, etc...

If WBS do their market analysis properly, they will structure packages in such a way that there is more than enough flexibility, and they should allow people to switch between packages.

It might be an idea for WBS to bill the UTD/UTC separately on their tax invoices, which would allow people more flexibility when switching between packages. I can already think of one reason why this would put customers at a disadvantage, but this isn't the time or the place for it.

The key to WBS' future success, is not just having the infrastructure and logistics in place, it is also knowing their target market(s), and structuring their products/services to match accordingly.

PS: I believe Sentech failed to do market analysis, otherwise it would've known that bandwidth hogs were not the type of customers they needed to be attracting. This based on their traffic shaping, or lack of bandwidth. Their pricing is aimed at the power user, no ordinary user would be prepared to pay R649 per month. The same goes for WBS and iBurst, R699 per month is only going to attract the power or business users.

Again, this diatribe is just my opinion.
 
I've heard from about 3 seperate people from other forums, who have had interviews or whatever with guys at iBurst, and they all say iBurst is adamant that as soon as the prelaunch phases is over the 3gb cap will be implemented, nothing was said about them still thinking about it, I also heard they will be releasing packages with LOWER caps, I mean what is wrong with them.
 
wtf!?!?! argh!!! :(

<hr noshade size="1"><font size="1"><i><div align="right"><font color="red">one day we will all look back at this... laugh nervously... and change the subject...</font id="red">
Sucktech no more... I'm now an iBurster! hmmmm... bandwidth... [:D]</div id="right"></i></font id="size1">
 
You will be able to purchase more bandwidth. On a whim. Just call them. Thats the idea at least.

For me, this is what will happen.

Monday - "Hi, I need another 7 gb please".
Tuesday - "Hi, I need another 7 gb please".
Wednesday - "Hi, I need another 7 gb please".
Thurdsay - "This is a pre-recorded message.... Hi, I need...."
.......
 
Sentech&gt; Bandwidth is charged at R100 per gigabyte, please deposit R700 into our account every day and you will receive your extra gbs...

I can imagine the response will be something like that.
 
Comparing the 512k Sentech package to I-Burst in terms of me.

Sentech 512K R1459 pm (roughly) -&gt; about 40 gb soft cap (i think?! Stand Corrected)
No coverage where I stay... Yet I can see a tower not 1 km away? eh?
I've dealt with sentech support on many occasions (part of my job). Lies, Deceit and Bullsh%t.

I-Burst R599 (3 gb) pm + (9 gb * 100) = R1499 -&gt; about 12 gb cap for same price on I-Burst. Agreed it's still a smaller cap. I-burst Support Centre is good. I get full 100% signal at my house.
Nuf said.

In all honesty, if Sentech had done the Mywireless Network Properly, got the guys in from overseas to consult, sent their guys to Mywireless Philipines (who btw run the most stable MW network in the world, don't have any sh%t) Sentech would kick ass. But alas not. They bought the manual rather.

Right, I've finished ranting now.
 
Sentech failed to do their market research, in oh soooo many ways, and it has come back to bite them in soooo many ways.

One of the most irritating things, from my biased viewpoint, is Sentech failed to get coverage sorted throughout Sandton. WBS got that right from the start.

Pricing on both MyWireless and iBurst is definitely targetted at the "power user"/P2P download abuser.

If Sentech only wanted casual users with relatively low bandwidth consumption, they should've priced their packages at R270 per month (maximum).

Sentech probably structured their pricing in the hopes that they would quickly get a return on their infrastructure investment, they didn't realise that people would cancel their contracts when the bandwidth was not being delivered.

Sentech's MyWireless AUP, I think, was a load of steaming horse dung, and I wonder if most customers actually read it before signing their contracts.

The worst thing about the failure of Sentech's MyWireless is that we the consumers are left with one less competitor to Telkom. Sentech had an opportuntity to be effective competition and obtain a lot of loyal customers.

I just hope WBS does not make similar mistakes.
 
ic - in my opinion / judging by the signs, namely the service I got in the last two weeks of November, Sentech are re-aligning themselves.

They were only too happy to be rid of "power users" and have tweaked thier network for basic services - email and light surfing.

They should dump the broadband advertising (I think they have for the most part) and focus purely on the soho market - the user who just wants to get thier email, the businessman on the road with his laptop (altho this would require a LOT more coverage) - my opinion is this is exactly what they are now doing. If they get it right, it will work for them.

I have a strong feeling that iBurst will want to go this route too - there's a ton of people with small businesses that only need email access and online banking who will use very little bandwidth overall. Those are the customers iBurst will most likely want to steal away from Telkom.

Put it this way, if your any kind of techie in the IT industry - whether it be programming, web design, network admin etc. or a PC gaming enthusiast or both, MyWireless and iBurst are never going to please - not until they have sufficient bandwidth and we all know there's a monopoly on that !

Vat hom Fluffy!
 
bb_matt, no argument from me, the only thing that both Sentech & WBS need to realise that their pricing is way too high for the average Joe Schmo. Their pricing is aimed squarely at the medium to high bandwidth consumer.

The average Joe who is spending around R270 per month all inclusive is not going to shell out around R700 per month just so they can be connected 24*7 and be on the move.

It's all about market research, and it is painfully obvious that Sentech did not bother to do theirs.

The only remaining question is: have WBS been doing their market research. If not, they need to realise they will flop just like Sentech.
 
bb_matt, I think your opinion on on Sentech/WBS wanting to steal away small business users who only use for email/online banking is flawed. a business with requirements like that (online banking/email) will rather STAY with telkom's dialup, because they're online for an hour at a time maximum a day. They NEEEEEEEED a phone line, why not use it for email/online banking anyway?

Where the real strength, and most overlooked market is, is IT people/gamers/power users. Users who have more than an IQ of 75 that actually uses the internet to their full potential.

And if you looked at many posts in the 3gig forum (and FOR **** SAKES WBS WAKE UP) many people who have adsl for online gaming, usually use their 3 gig up in the first WEEK JUST FOR GAMING.

If WBS can corner that market, they have an instant subscription rate of 10000 users per month. Much more than Sentech could have ever dreamt of.

Alas, let's wait and see.

I would love sihen or anakin commenting here to debunk these things, but then again, WBS could turn a Sentech on use right before launch.

My finger is itching to call the cancel button on this baby... give me a freaking reason... my money can be spent somewhere else YOU DUMB ASS MONKEY BRAINED PEOPLE! MWHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHa
 
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