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[Brian_G]

You should, imo, avoid calling it 'domino-secession'.

It implies a lack of human agency.... that human beings have no incentive to look before they leap, or cannot learn from the mistakes of those stupid enough not to look before they leap.

I've covered this before but if what you mean is 'runaway' or 'out-of-control' secession, it is just so far from the reality of how people act, on the whole. People who break-away are usually the kind who are prepared to give up the most convenience. People who do it for sport - as I think is being implied - don't exist.

True, not a good choice of phrase.

How about "recursive secession" - even just a second attempt qualifies for that label. Still not ideal though, will work on it further.

 

[lexity]

True, not a good choice of phrase.

How about "recursive secession" - even just a second attempt qualifies for that label. Still not ideal though, will work on it further.

'Recursive secession' is technically double-counting, but acceptable for the purpose of emphasis.

'The right to freedom of association' is what it boils down to.

Rights are not bestowed on, or graciously granted, by your fellow human beings. They can only be recognized and defended by your fellow human beings, not bestowed or granted.

As such, rights are not a 'one-off' concept. Just because you exercise a right, doesn't mean you have used up one instance of your allotted instances.

Nor do rights expire.

 

[vigras rojara]

Can you chaps perhaps make some progress with the first secession, before you spend too much time agonising over the semantics of all the potential future ones?

That would Phil me with more confidence.

 

[Brian_G]

Can you chaps perhaps make some progress with the first secession, before you spend too much time agonising over the semantics of all the potential future ones?

That would Phil me with more confidence.

All good things take time to develop

Anyway, you make me nervous..

 

[lexity]

Can you chaps perhaps make some progress with the first secession, before you spend too much time agonising over the semantics of all the potential future ones?

That would Phil me with more confidence.

Speaking of mitigating fears...

Is there a secessionist movement in Londonistan, yet? Or are you confident in the deportation strategy?

 

[vigras rojara]

Speaking of mitigating fears...

Is there a secessionist movement in Londonistan, yet? Or are you confident in the deportation strategy?

There may be a secessionist movement, there tend to be loons in many places. I haven't heard of any though.

As I've said before, if the UK is a "stan", then SA is a white homeland. So you chaps can relax after all.

 

[vigras rojara]

All good things take time to develop

Anyway, you make me nervous..

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Can't be me. I tend to raise people's blood pressure around here!

 

[Brian_G]

There may be a secessionist movement, there tend to be loons in many places.

That makes you a loon - you've said many a time here that you would like to see secession IF it can be hurried up.

 

[vigras rojara]

That makes you a loon - you've said many a time here that you would like to see secession IF it can be hurried up.

Erm, no, I haven't.

I've said I've yet to see a credible case for it with and a cogent explanation of how it could be achieved.

Until someone comes up with that - unlikely, as it's been 20 years at least in the making, I could never support it.

 

[Brian_G]

Erm, no, I haven't.

I've said I've yet to see a credible case for it with and a cogent explanation of how it could be achieved.

Until someone comes up with that - unlikely, as it's been 20 years at least in the making, I could never support it.

Nope. You seem to change your mind ever other day... but not worth doing a search for it, today you're in traitor mode again.

 

[vigras rojara]

Nope. You seem to change your mind ever other day... but not worth doing a search for it, today you're in traitor mode again.

Nope, I'm not. How could I support something that no-one can practically articulate? That's always been my stance.

If a cogent plan was on display I might support it, but there is nothing. Just a "concept of a plan".

 

[Brian_G]

If a cogent plan was on display I might support it,

That ^^ is more or less how you tend to lean towards the positive (our concept of a positive direction), but sometimes with more certainty.

Ok, I'll let it go, but deep down you want it ;- )

 

[Brian_G]

Disclaimer: I am not becoming an active WC Secession supporter again.... not yet, not possible with current (mis)directions

 

[Splinter]

Can you chaps perhaps make some progress with the first secession, before you spend too much time agonising over the semantics of all the potential future ones?

That would Phil me with more confidence.

Are they seriously talking about future ones laready?

I thought there were some strange posts in the Iran thread, but this is getting up there.

 

[lexity]

There may be a secessionist movement, there tend to be loons in many places. I haven't heard of any though.

As I've said before, if the UK is a "stan", then SA is a white homeland. So you chaps can relax after all.

I do believe we are speaking a different language.

 

[vigras rojara]

That ^^ is more or less how you tend to lean towards the positive (our concept of a positive direction), but sometimes with more certainty.

Ok, I'll let it go, but deep down you want it ;- )

Being a reasonable person, if someone came up with a real plan I'd consider it.

But instead I'll just have to keep watching tumbleweed blow past in that hectic south-easter.

 

[Brian_G]

Are they seriously talking about future ones laready?

I thought there were some strange posts in the Iran thread, but this is getting up there.

Probably best if you read the post that brought it up - #798 - it's a valid concern, worthy of discussion any time.

Nice to see you interested in discussing this.

 

[vigras rojara]

I do believe we are speaking a different language.

You implied that the UK is becoming a "stan". This is usually a term employed by people pushing replacement theory and generally in respect of Muslims.

The white population is South Africa is roughly the same proportion of the total as the Muslim population is of the UK, so in line with your "stan" theory SA would be a white homeland.

 

[vigras rojara]

Are they seriously talking about future ones laready?

I thought there were some strange posts in the Iran thread, but this is getting up there.

Indeed, that's why I jumped in with a comment.

Moths to flames and all that...

 

[Splinter]

Probably best if you read the post that brought it up - #798 - it's a valid concern, worthy of discussion any time.

Nice to see you interested in discussing this.

Hey, I'm always interested in entertaining posts on MyBB. Are you not?