Capitec, is it worth it?

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I see Capitec advertising no charges for debit card purchases (a function I prefer to use). That sounds very appealing. Are there any catches? Is it really ANY debit card purchase?

I heard randomly that you get nailed for deposits, but I am not sure on that. Anyone got experience with Capitec?
 
Im with them and Im very happy so far. So far all my debit card purchases have been free, no issues. You also get 7% interest on any amount in your bank account below R10000 IIRC.

Best is to look here and get a better overview of the product. --> http://www.capitecbank.co.za/products/transactionoptions

Also, if you do a search there is another BIG Capitec thread already posted in here somewhere ;)
 
From what I understand is you get nailed by withdraws, but as long as you use debit payments and don't use ATMs , then you save. I don't ever see Capitec ATMs to be honest and R7.00 per transaction from a different bank's ATM is pretty high.

Their saving account interest rates are stellar, though.
 
From what I understand is you get nailed by withdraws, but as long as you use debit payments and don't use ATMs , then you save. I don't ever see Capitec ATMs to be honest and R7.00 per transaction from a different bank's ATM is pretty high.

Their saving account interest rates are stellar, though.
I think you can make a withdrawal from checkers tillpoints. I'm planning to open a Capitec account tomorrow.

Credit Suisse rates Capitec right up there with brands like Apple and Hyundai has "Great brands of tomorrow"

Here's thier investment summary:
Investment Summary
■ Unique Brand Story. CPIJ’s low-cost banking model will continue to attract more
customers that are price sensitive and looking for better-value alternatives. The bank
offers a highly attractive savings rate and low transaction fees owing to its lean cost
structure.
â–  Brand Opportunity. CPIJ plans to open 40 branches in fiscal 2010, which will
increase its network to over 400 in total across South Africa. Management expects to
obtain better retail locations, as the current market downturn has resulted in increased
availability of space. CPIJ also plans to move to more affluent areas to attract middle
income earners, a market that is traditionally the preserve of the big four. The bank
introduced more long-dated, high-value loans to attract the middle to upper income
earners (recently launched 48 months R100,000 loans). In the first half of 2010, CPIJ
had 2.1 million active clients; management is confident that by fiscal 2010, the
company will have 2.5 million customers, and targets 5 million customers in
2016/2017.
â–  As long as CPIJ is able to manage the impairments risk, we believe that the company
will continue to produce earnings growth. CPIJ consistently revises its credit scoring
criteria to manage its risk exposure. CPIJ limits its exposure in sectors that are
currently under severe pressure, such as Mining and Automotive, by declining loans to
potential clients employed in these high-risk sectors. CPIJ’s exposure in these sectors
currently is less than 7% and CPIJ has good exposure in government with 45% of the
bank’s clients employed as civil servants, which lowers the risk of nonperforming loans
due to retrenchments.
â–  Market Perception. Although CPIJ is attracting clients from the big four banks through
its low pricing, growth remains in the underbanked market, in our view. According to
industry research, it is estimated that only 63% of South Africa’s adult population is
banked clients—5% of these have home loans and 3% have personal loans. Also, a
Sindi Daniso
27 11 384 2218
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Walter Jacobs
27 11 384 2217
[email protected]
25 February 2010
Great Brands of Tomorrow 130
number of clients see bank accounts as a way to receive their salaries and are not
taking advantage of other bank products. Therefore, we believe that there is still
potential for growth in the mass market, as more people become aware of other
banking services.
â–  Valuation. We believe that taking the long-term view is warranted for a compelling
brand story in a growth phase. Our seven-year target price is 7 times our EPS
estimate of R19.13, which embeds R17.7 billion in gross loans and a 26% net interest
margin, and would drive a 6% CAGR return over the next 7 years.
 
From what I understand is you get nailed by withdraws, but as long as you use debit payments and don't use ATMs , then you save. I don't ever see Capitec ATMs to be honest and R7.00 per transaction from a different bank's ATM is pretty high.

Their saving account interest rates are stellar, though.

FIXED fee. For interest sake what does SB, ABSA and the likes charge for withdrawals from their own atm's....?

Cash withdrawals (fixed fee*)

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Pick n Pay, Boxer or Score cashier 1.00
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Shoprite, Checkers or PEP cashier with purchase (cashback) 1.00
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Capitec Bank ATM 3.75
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Spark/Cash Axcess ATM 3.75
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Other bank ATM 7.00
 
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Capitec looks interesting. The whole 0 debit card transaction fee is really appealing.
 
FIXED fee. For interest sake what does SB, ABSA and the likes charge for withdrawals from their own atm's....?

Well I bank with FNB and the last time I checked, I pay R2.00 per withdraw (From FNB ATM) and R5.00 per withdraw from a different bank. Of course there are many different kinds of accounts, though and some accounts have monthly fees and unlimited ATM usage.

I will be signing up with them soon to serve as a secondary account.
 
Well I bank with FNB and the last time I checked, I pay R2.00 per withdraw (From FNB ATM) and R5.00 per withdraw from a different bank. Of course there are many different kinds of accounts, though and some accounts have monthly fees and unlimited ATM usage.

I will be signing up with them soon to serve as a secondary account.
What account are you on...?
 
I am using a Smart Account. Can only seem to find the loan interest rates on their site, so the rates in my previous post may be wrong or outdated.

So for the smart account it's as follows:
Cash Withdrawals
FNB ATM Unlimited Transactions
R1-R500.00 R 5.50
R500.01-R1000.00 R11.00
R1000.01+ R16.50

R1-R500.00 R 7.50
R500.01-R1000.00 R15.00
FNB Mini ATM Unlimited Transactions
R1-R500.00 R2.00
R500.01-R1000.00 R5.50

R1-R500.00 R2.50
R500.01-R1000.00 R7.50
Point of Sale (Visa Electron Card Only) Unlimited Transactions R 1.90 R2.50

http://www.fnbweb.co.za/cbs/pricingguide/Personal/Smart_e.asp

It's much easier to check on the website.
 
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Looks about right to me. I hope signing up with them is a easy process and their queues are not long.
 
Looks about right to me. I hope signing up with them is a easy process and their queues are not long.

So anything over R500 becomes a ripp even at the banks OWN atm. Sign-up is easy and is done paperless but due to their increase in popularity queues are longer but still nothing like other banks.
 
Been using them for 4 months now, my fees went from just under 300 to round about 40 bucks allin... R7.50 to withdraw from any ATM is a bloody good deal. Recheck the prices on ALL other banks' accounts and show me 1 that beats that.

Was hesitant originally, though they were a low income bank, but now I have realized they are just an efficient one. No giant marble branches full of LCD's and no paperwork.

Personally I love them.
 
Looks about right to me. I hope signing up with them is a easy process and their queues are not long.

Been using them for 4 months now, my fees went from just under 300 to round about 40 bucks allin... R7.50 to withdraw from any ATM is a bloody good deal. Recheck the prices on ALL other banks' accounts and show me 1 that beats that.

Was hesitant originally, though they were a low income bank, but now I have realized they are just an efficient one. No giant marble branches full of LCD's and no paperwork.

Personally I love them.

+1 on both counts.

I've been with Capitec now for 3 months.
All debit card transactions (swiping) is free - I'm saving minimum R300 per month compared to ABSA.
Now I can fill up my car and only pay for the damn fuel - unlike ABSA charging you to moer toe with every swipe you make.

I draw cash at PnP if needed for R1 - GREAT!
The 3 times I had gone into one of their branches - empty, quick and efficient ;)

To the OP - go for it - you'll not be sorry :D
 
Well it depends because if your balance is over R6 000 then the first 10 withdraws would be free.

If your balance is R6000 with capitec you will get R35 in interest, so up to 5 withdrawals at any atm. I barely withdraw ever as the swipe transactions are free and I don't like carrying cash.
 
Hi

Been using Capitec since December last year after being charged about R400 for debit card purchaces from another bank. Never looked back. They are efficient and earn more on interest than bank charges which are really minimal. The trick is to withdraw from the shops they specify(which is only 1 buck or now free till end July). The only problem I have now is not having cash on me now as I swipe everything :-) Refer this bank to all and sundry now.

Hope they stick around and don't get swallowed and elbowed out by the big boys like previous banks like 20twenty etc.
 
Been using Capitec for over a year now. Never been so happy with a bank before. There are few ATMs which is the only issue but being able to draw from Checkers or PnP for next to nothing solves that problem. Most fees are really reasonable, I don't get that feeling that I am being robbed every time I do something with them. The branch hours are also awesome and I've never waited more than 5 mins to get service.
 
What I don't understand with them is that they pay less interest if you have more than R10000 in an account?
Anyone make sense of this?
 
With FNB, if you keep a bank balance of over R10000 in your account all txans are free.It is an pricing option you can setup on your account....
 
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