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Does anyone know where I can get a large'ish database containing that makes and models of most common cars, this will be used to create a database for a car auction site.

This will save me the trouble of setting one up myself and also improve the accuracy of searches as user will select the brands rather than entering the data manually.

Thanks alot
 
Ipwn 4 said:
Does anyone know where I can get a large'ish database containing that makes and models of most common cars, this will be used to create a database for a car auction site.

This will save me the trouble of setting one up myself and also improve the accuracy of searches as user will select the brands rather than entering the data manually.

Thanks alot
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I have a database (text file) of about 7,500 makes and models for South Africa if you interested. PM me with a offer.
 
ITCynic said:
I have a database (text file) of about 7,500 makes and models for South Africa if you interested. PM me with a offer.
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Haha you've got to be joking? That's barely anything and you want to charge me, I'll smack something twice that size together in less than an hour just by coping of other sites. Was hoping to get something that will cover all bases for free. A text file will take ages to extract into the different collections I'm using.


Wyzak said:
Try http://www.naamsa.co.za/. They have a very decent database when it comes to the fuel type your vehicle should be using. You could probably extract it...
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Figured I'd have to do something like that, was hoping not to but hey, someone is going to have to do it if there isn't a free one availible. Thanks alot
 
Ipwn 4 said:
Haha you've got to be joking? That's barely anything and you want to charge me, I'll smack something twice that size together in less than an hour just by coping of other sites. Was hoping to get something that will cover all bases for free. A text file will take ages to extract into the different collections I'm using.
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Relax, he was just offering - no harm in that.
 
Ipwn 4 said:
Haha you've got to be joking? That's barely anything and you want to charge me, I'll smack something twice that size together in less than an hour just by coping of other sites. Was hoping to get something that will cover all bases for free. A text file will take ages to extract into the different collections I'm using.




Figured I'd have to do something like that, was hoping not to but hey, someone is going to have to do it if there isn't a free one availible. Thanks alot
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So why you asking for help if it will take so quick? I am assuming the dude has put some effort into create the database so I would not see there been a problem paying for it.
 
boswald said:
So why you asking for help if it will take so quick? I am assuming the dude has put some effort into create the database so I would not see there been a problem paying for it.
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Take autotrader.co.za as an example, use "inspect element" in google chrome on the drop down boxes and viola, you have their data inside of HTML code. Now add a console based application and some string handling and it's possible to extract the data.

I didn't want to do it but I'm not paying for something I can do with little effort, I figured if it's that easy to do someone will share the data the obtained for free and that what I'll be doing when done.
 
Ipwn 4 said:
Take autotrader.co.za as an example, use "inspect element" in google chrome on the drop down boxes and viola, you have their data inside of HTML code. Now add a console based application and some string handling and it's possible to extract the data.

I didn't want to do it but I'm not paying for something I can do with little effort, I figured if it's that easy to do someone will share the data the obtained for free and that what I'll be doing when done.
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I think the point people are trying to make ois that you asked for help, someone provided a solution and you rudely turned him down.
 
Sysem said:
I think the point people are trying to make ois that you asked for help, someone provided a solution and you rudely turned him down.
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I apologize if I came across as being rude, just saw it as an insult that someone will try and make money off my request for help. Forgive me if I'm wrong but it thought the whole idea of forums like this for people to help one another out?

My 2c worth
 
Have you found one database yet, if not how long do you think it will take you to gather that data?
If that takes some effort and/or you can't find a db, I'm not surprised someone's offering it for a fee.
 
Found a lite one online which is fine as this is only for a project, complete db's containing full specs only cost $29 but that too much info as I only need mainstream makes and models. The code will be able to integrate larger db's should I need to.

In terms of gathering the data I now have bits and pieces of autotrader all over my clipboard. Found it quite funny how many sites selling these db's give you full access to some serious db's online(drop down list ect). Would take way less than $29 worth of time to extract the data using HTML code as the page re-renders.
 
Ipwn 4 said:
Would take way less than $29 worth of time to extract the data using HTML code as the page re-renders.
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That's about average pay for the time between starting this thread and the first reply.
So you'd probably have finished it by the time ITCynic had posted... ;)
 
Extract from the copyright page on the www.autotrader.co.za website.
All intellectual property rights (including, without limitation, common law rights to intellectual property, patents, copyrights, design rights, registered design, trade and service marks, and rights to apply for any of the foregoing) whatever and wheresoever subsisting in or to any inventions, ideas or information or in or to any service, goods or works (including, without limitation, drawings, sketches, artwork, typography and photographs) invented, devised, made, created acquired or written by or for Auto Trader (whether or not in connection with any contract with the advertiser) shall be and remain Auto Trader's absolute property. Neither the advertiser nor any other person shall have any licence or other rights whatsoever under or in respect of the said intellectual property rights. The advertiser undertakes that it will not reproduce or authorise or procure any other person to reproduce or authorise or procure any other person to reproduce any of the said artwork, typography, photographs or other works. The advertiser hereby assigns all its rights (in any) in and to the said intellectual property rights to Auto Trader.
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Is it ethical for a website developer to infringe other peoples website copyrights for their own developments ?

How does one expect the copyright to be honoured on your own website(s) if you have no qualms in copying information/data off other peoples websites without their permission ?

@ OP - I made an offer to you which you did not find acceptable and that's fine by me.
I am sure in the 10 hours between your first post and your last post that you must have built your make/model database by now. Congratulations ...... it took me a lot longer than that to build mine.
 
ITCynic said:
Extract from the copyright page on the www.autotrader.co.za website.


Is it ethical for a website developer to infringe other peoples website copyrights for their own developments ?

How does one expect the copyright to be honoured on your own website(s) if you have no qualms in copying information/data off other peoples websites without their permission ?

@ OP - I made an offer to you which you did not find acceptable and that's fine by me.
I am sure in the 10 hours between your first post and your last post that you must have built your make/model database by now. Congratulations ...... it took me a lot longer than that to build mine.
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The reason I'm not interested in buying yours was due to the fact this is a simple college project, it won't ever be posted online or used to make any form of income, for this reason I did not plan on paying for the data that will be used. Should this website have been a proper development I would have payed the $29 with a smile for a db of 44k rows but that's not what I needs.

Like I said before I am sorry for the way I turned your offer down and appreciate your offer. The actual db I am using now came of a forum as the procedure to copy autotrader would have taken too long. Each of the dropdown boxed have their data sources binded at runtime which means I would have needed to copy code of each make of car.

Sorry ITCynic...
 
If it's just being used for a college project, just list like three different manufacturers with 3 cars each.
 
ITCynic said:
Extract from the copyright page on the www.autotrader.co.za website.


Is it ethical for a website developer to infringe other peoples website copyrights for their own developments ?

How does one expect the copyright to be honoured on your own website(s) if you have no qualms in copying information/data off other peoples websites without their permission ?

@ OP - I made an offer to you which you did not find acceptable and that's fine by me.
I am sure in the 10 hours between your first post and your last post that you must have built your make/model database by now. Congratulations ...... it took me a lot longer than that to build mine.
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Just a question though ... isn't information that is publicly available not copyrightable? What I mean by that, is the list on Auto Traders website is available on many other websites as well, it is not their exclusive property ... or is it?
The way I would look at that is the ability to differentiate ... if I pull that list off their website ... would someone from auto trader be able to tell me without reasonable doubt that I copied that information from their website? If they answer no, then can they copyright that particular information?
However, if you copy original content such as an image, or article ... then yes, someone would be able to identify without reasonable doubt.
So based on this then, can they copyright the list of cars?
 
I don't feel you'd cross any ethical/legal boundaries... They expose the information on their website, so, isn't it available to anyone? And if you just used an automated method to get everything they had on their website... no harm in that right?

Now, if you scrape their advertisements, and sell them... then you start entering a lesser shade of gray.

If you plan on using the information you get from their website to make money, why don't you just buy the information (since you're making some dough off it). It's the right thing to do. If its for testing purposes, have at it.
 
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