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Car model date?
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HapticSimian
Honorary Master
The car's registration papers will have a date of 1st registration on them. I think the sheet that you cut the license disc from also makes mention of it.
SaiyanZ
Executive Member
The registration papers will show the registration date but the car may have been manufactured a year or two earlier before being first purchased. So you can't really use that date to determine the model. The papers should have the model number/name on it right on the top though.
Fazda
Honorary Master
This is interesting, I have just pulled the NATIS document from a car that I have just traded in and just below the Tare it says Date of liability (Not year model) - first time I've noticed this!
We always do an HPI check to get actual year model, but if you have the service books of the car, the date will be there.
We always do an HPI check to get actual year model, but if you have the service books of the car, the date will be there.
roLLz
Well-Known Member
The dealer will be able to tell you. If you call any dealer that sells your car, give them the VIN and they should be able to look it up as well as service and maintenance history if the service was done at the approved dealerships.
HapticSimian
Honorary Master
Eh... not quite. A car might've been manufactured earlier, but the date of 1st registration is what ultimately decides its model year insofar as both value/trade-in and insurance is concerned.
What you say is half right, but is normally only an issue when there has been a model change, and only becomes relevant at time of trade-in where a vehicle was originally sold after the model's production ceased. To illustrate the point: VWs' chassis numbers (and I half expect those of most other cars) contain an identifier for the build year. However, cars built in the latter half of one year are routinely sold the next year as that year's model.
It can get a bit ridiculous every now and again - I remember back in my Hyundai days we had a Sonata on the floor, 63km (delivery mileage) on the clock, that had been shunted from one dealer to the next for 28 months.
I left the dealer before it did, but some sales manager or DP probably ended up with it as a company car.The plot thickens. My insurance Co wants the model date. If I give the wrong date then I am in the poo.
The license cut out paper only shows the last roadworthy date. 2008. That's when I bought it.
The VIN "All owners motor Query" shows;
Benze Fin Ser SA PTY LT-- Owner 2005
Benze Fin Ser Sa PTY LT -- Title Holder 2006
This goes on until:
Mercedes Benz Claremont 2008
And then my name.
Goodness me. Now what?
The license cut out paper only shows the last roadworthy date. 2008. That's when I bought it.
The VIN "All owners motor Query" shows;
Benze Fin Ser SA PTY LT-- Owner 2005
Benze Fin Ser Sa PTY LT -- Title Holder 2006
This goes on until:
Mercedes Benz Claremont 2008
And then my name.
Goodness me. Now what?
HapticSimian
Honorary Master
2005 model, originally financed by Mercedes Benz Financial Services, traded in at Claremont MB in 2008 & subsequently sold to you.
Fazda
Honorary Master
Certain companies, and Mercedes is one of them, will "capture" a sales card when a car comes on to the floor, which is no problem, provided the car is sold very quickly. I traded in a car in February - one owner who had had it since new and he had bought it in April 2006, so we gave him the price based on that info. Meanwhile, the manufacturer had captured the card in October 2005, which effectively made it a 2005 model WRT Trade In price....a R 15000 price difference which ended up in some mathematical gymnastics in order to balance the books once the trade in arrived.
The most accurate way to get your year model is to decipher it from the 17 digit VIN number(22 if you have a Toyota). Google how to decode the VIN number of your vehicle manufacturer and get it from their. The date of first registration is the first date it was sold not the date it was manufactured. The 10th digit is usually the year of manufacture. This site will help you decipher it: https://www.team-bhp.com/advice/find-your-cars-date-manufacture-vin#p3 . This also renders useless the trick of buying a car in December and registering it in January of the next year and claiming it is that years model. The official breakdown of the 17 digit VIN is the 10th digit is year of manufacture/model. The most inarguable method thou is to phone the manufacturers customer care line with the VIN and confirm the correct year.
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SauRoNZA
Honorary Master
Registration date - when it was booked into the system here. (You can have a 2021 model registered in 2022. You could even have a 1999 model registered in 2022).
Manufacture Date - The day it was finished and rolled out the factory.
Model Year - The version/revision of the car, not necessarily the same as the manufacture date. (You can have a 2022 model manufactured in 2021). (If you want to get really technical and there were no revisions the model year can be many years old)
Which one are you looking for OP and for what purpose?
Manufacture Date - The day it was finished and rolled out the factory.
Model Year - The version/revision of the car, not necessarily the same as the manufacture date. (You can have a 2022 model manufactured in 2021). (If you want to get really technical and there were no revisions the model year can be many years old)
Which one are you looking for OP and for what purpose?
SauRoNZA
Honorary Master
Then use the date first registered from the E-Natis document.
SauRoNZA
Honorary Master
IF if it is revised exactly as I said.
If it’s not revised the model year designation remains the same because it identifies the model differentiation not the time as one assumes.
