Career change..

B.O.F.H. said:
I may have the wrong person, but didn't you just start working in soft dev recently?
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I remember he got a job I think last year or so and had a fight with his boss not so long ago.

I also love the bush and all that but working there full time might not be enjoyable.
 
Is the development industry very deadline orientated ?
 
becoming a coder doesn't happen overnight - how can you not like it suddenly?
 
Never make your hobby your job.
Find some rewarding work to do on the wknds
 
iDenTiTy - just do it. don't let the negative thoughts get to you.
i am resigning mid month as i am just fcking fed up with IT support.So i have made that decision and it is my baby if i end up worse off.
I think its really really depressing and dissapointing how almost everyone i know wakes up and goes to 'hell' everyday but never actually takes the risk or chance .
I feel my current job would drive me into deep depression if i carried on so i just can't.i gave up. back to studyin for me .end of story.

good luck mate - and do something positive.seeing code, writing code and talking code all day...yeah fck that i would also go mal
 
Good luck, I say go for it. I would also quit my job, go back to studying and start my career all over again in a different line of work if I had the courage. I believe very strongly that certain personality types are suited to certain careers more so than others. For example an analytical introvert in most cases will be unhappy working as a Sales Rep or Customer Liason Officer. It just goes against their nature and personality. But on the other hand someone like that may well be very happy working as a developer where it’s just him and a bunch of code all day. Of course there are exceptions, but in general certain personality types will be happier in some careers more so than others. It’s not about getting out of the rat race necessarily, it’s about having a career that compliments your nature.

Im in a situation exactly like that. My career just doesn’t suit my personality. The problem is that I’ve built my career up over a few years and now earn a very good salary and am in what would be considered a very good corporate job. Unfortunately I don’t have the courage to quit so I can go back to studying and start my career again. The financial implications (both immediate and in the future towards retirement) are huge. Pension/provident funds and salary will take a knock that will take 10 years at least to recover from.

Anyway, if you feel you can take the knock in salary and will wake up a happier person because of it. Then screw what anyone else thinks, just do it.
 
Murdoc said:
Im trying to make a move into web development from the creative industry. Im so sick of having to conceptualize and design for difficult clients
It feels that in development i can rely on logic and processes where as im finding the advertising and the creative indusrty so freaking opinion(taste) orientated
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Oh I so get where you're coming from. Some days I long for mindless repetitive work so that I don't have to constantly be creative 24/7. Aint all it's cracked up to be.
 
RisseN said:
Good luck, I say go for it. I would also quit my job, go back to studying and start my career all over again in a different line of work if I had the courage. I believe very strongly that certain personality types are suited to certain careers more so than others. For example an analytical introvert in most cases will be unhappy working as a Sales Rep or Customer Liason Officer. It just goes against their nature and personality. But on the other hand someone like that may well be very happy working as a developer where it’s just him and a bunch of code all day. Of course there are exceptions, but in general certain personality types will be happier in some careers more so than others. It’s not about getting out of the rat race necessarily, it’s about having a career that compliments your nature.

Im in a situation exactly like that. My career just doesn’t suit my personality. The problem is that I’ve built my career up over a few years and now earn a very good salary and am in what would be considered a very good corporate job. Unfortunately I don’t have the courage to quit so I can go back to studying and start my career again. The financial implications (both immediate and in the future towards retirement) are huge. Pension/provident funds and salary will take a knock that will take 10 years at least to recover from.

Anyway, if you feel you can take the knock in salary and will wake up a happier person because of it. Then screw what anyone else thinks, just do it.
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good post.
i took alot of sense from your post.i really don't think i am cut for support and would probably work well doing code all day (my biggest problem is i really want to get away from that side of IT)
can i ask.you say you earn a decent salary etc. are you HAPPY at the place you working now though? i mean how do you handle thes stress,complaints and people in general at work.i would rather take a salary cut but know i am happy waking up in the morning heading off to work.It's sad how financial implications rot all of us so badly...but fck hey that's life :erm:
 
Positively Negative said:
good post.
i took alot of sense from your post.i really don't think i am cut for support and would probably work well doing code all day (my biggest problem is i really want to get away from that side of IT)
can i ask.you say you earn a decent salary etc. are you HAPPY at the place you working now though? i mean how do you handle thes stress,complaints and people in general at work.i would rather take a salary cut but know i am happy waking up in the morning heading off to work.It's sad how financial implications rot all of us so badly...but fck hey that's life :erm:
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Well nope, im not happy. The career I’ve found myself in doesn’t suit my personality and nature. So although in once sense it’s great to have a well paying job, be in demand, and have great career growth possibilities. It doesn’t make up for the fact that every single day I wake up, I firstly don’t want to go to work and secondly wish I could do something else with my life (career wise). Like I said, it’s not about getting out of the rat race for many people, it’s simply about finding a career that compliments your nature and allows you to wake up looking forward to work each day.

As you said, it’s sad how much of an impact financial gain has on what a person does for a living. I would love to go to varsity again, get another degree and start all over again in something that I love. The reason why I haven’t done that, is simply because of the massive impact it will have financially both now and at retirement. Do the maths for yourself, it’s scary what starting your career over from the bottom does.

In the back of my mind I’ve got this idea to start an evening degree through unisa. Study after work each night and eventually a few years down the line be qualified in something else. That’s probably a pipe dream,…but it’s a nice one.
 
Positively Negative said:
iDenTiTy - just do it. don't let the negative thoughts get to you.
i am resigning mid month as i am just fcking fed up with IT support.So i have made that decision and it is my baby if i end up worse off.
I think its really really depressing and dissapointing how almost everyone i know wakes up and goes to 'hell' everyday but never actually takes the risk or chance .
I feel my current job would drive me into deep depression if i carried on so i just can't.i gave up. back to studyin for me .end of story.

good luck mate - and do something positive.seeing code, writing code and talking code all day...yeah fck that i would also go mal
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What are you going to study? If you don't mind sharing.
 
You want to put out a fire by lighting a match?

You want to be happy by having a career. You study for 3+ years. Be a programmer for X+ years. You are unhappy. You want to be happy. You study for X+years etc
 
RisseN said:
Well nope, im not happy. The career I’ve found myself in doesn’t suit my personality and nature. So although in once sense it’s great to have a well paying job, be in demand, and have great career growth possibilities. It doesn’t make up for the fact that every single day I wake up, I firstly don’t want to go to work and secondly wish I could do something else with my life (career wise). Like I said, it’s not about getting out of the rat race for many people, it’s simply about finding a career that compliments your nature and allows you to wake up looking forward to work each day.

As you said, it’s sad how much of an impact financial gain has on what a person does for a living. I would love to go to varsity again, get another degree and start all over again in something that I love. The reason why I haven’t done that, is simply because of the massive impact it will have financially both now and at retirement. Do the maths for yourself, it’s scary what starting your career over from the bottom does.

In the back of my mind I’ve got this idea to start an evening degree through unisa. Study after work each night and eventually a few years down the line be qualified in something else. That’s probably a pipe dream,…but it’s a nice one.
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Howzit,

Been there done that and the results were interesting. First the story of what happened..

In 2005, I quit work, sold my house, my car and cashed in my provident fund to leave IT (I was a programmer) and study full time at a local varsity here in SA (I tried the UNISA route, but found that it was too easy to slack off). Needless to say it was an interesting and tough experience and luckily, I didn't have any dependents. Firstly, it was a serious downscale in living. I moved to 5 times in 6 months from 1 small place to the next and this included sharing a house with a drunk and a mother and daughter prostitute team (They didn't say so in the advert :p ). Sounds interesting no? expect I walked into the shared bathroom one evening to find the daughter had slit her wrists in the bath, the mom was on something and wasn't making any sense etc. Rushed her to hospital and she survived. Secondly, it was really hard to start learning again but it was an amazing experience to start learning something different, and for different reasons than when I was a student. It was as if my brain was asleep and now woke up to this new stimulus. I've now decided that I will try something this radical every decade to kick start my brain and test myself. Thirdly, bold, faithfilled actions have unintended consequences. The last place I moved to was a commune of students and I met this lady whom I started dating. I also got a job (I was cold called, went for the interview out of curiosity but was impressed enough to accept the job) in IT( yeah, I went back) and I've been there ever since. I'm now married to the lady and I enjoy what I do in IT. I'm also in my final year with my degree in economics and maths. My future career path will be at an intersection between finance and IT I suspect. Not 100% sure what exactly yet...

In short, go for it.

If you really, truly aren't happy where you are, you don't really have a choice but to seriously analyse it and change things if required. Otherwise no amount of income/lifestyle will compensate for the loss of your contentment and there are serious consequences to your health, both physical and mental, and really, you can have all the money in the world but that is nothing without health.

my 2c..

Cheers
 
Deep down I think most of us would love to press the rewind button and then 'play again'. If I didn't have the debt commitments I did right now, I'd love to study/learn something new/different and then go out into the world and make a positive contribution. Sadly, it's not that simple for me (and most folk).
I say, if you can afford to make the change and more importantly, if you can afford to deal with the consequences if the change you make fails, then go for it.

Go get 'em, tiger :p
 
While in my 20's I was struggling to find a career as I had no Tertiary education and always said that by the time one is 30, you will be in that career for the next decade. It was something I always noticed with 30-somethings.

By the time I turned 30, I released I did not want to be in sales anymore (my career) but wanted to pursue a career in IT. I discussed it with my wife (then just my girlfriend) and my ex-wife (then my ex-wife :)). I had financial commitments (daughter) and expectations (future-wife).

I turned 30 the Sunday and resigned the Monday. I was scared and had 6mth to get into IT.

Took a break for the first time in my life and within 10days started PC callouts. 6 weeks into my "break", I was managing an IT retail store. 18mths later I landed my dream job as a developer. 16mths later I started my BSc with UNISA (my dream to have my degree before 40).

No regrets even though financially the move has put me 8yrs behind others my age. Turning 36 soon.
 
Many people find out in their life that their chosen career path is not what they want.
I wanted to be in IT, ended up doing graphic design, then I joined the VWS and as much as I love it, I don't want to be a fire fighter full time so I do it volunteer, then I quit my graphic design job and joined a IT company and totally enjoy it and then I did a first aid level 3 course and LOVED that! then I did my BAA/BLS and now I am a volunteer medic and I really love doing that.
I guess you find be happy in your job, if you find something else to do with your time to distract you from all the bad things in your 'full time' job that bugs the hell outta you.
I find this works for me.
Somethings you can't do for money.
 
gdiza said:
Many people find out in their life that their chosen career path is not what they want.
I wanted to be in IT, ended up doing graphic design, then I joined the VWS and as much as I love it, I don't want to be a fire fighter full time so I do it volunteer, then I quit my graphic design job and joined a IT company and totally enjoy it and then I did a first aid level 3 course and LOVED that! then I did my BAA/BLS and now I am a volunteer medic and I really love doing that.
I guess you find be happy in your job, if you find something else to do with your time to distract you from all the bad things in your 'full time' job that bugs the hell outta you.
I find this works for me.
Somethings you can't do for money.
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+1. I'm still looking for that something else to do though.
 
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