CarteBlanche

[Chubs]

Just one thing I want to ask about.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">In South Africa, ADSL is rolled out at a pace that suits Telkom. The service is charged at R680 for the service, R79 for a line rental (what line, it uses an exchange line) and R2500 for an ADSL modem.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Being an ADSL possible user I cant believe that telkom would charge R79 for line rental on top of the R680 for ADSL...thats just plain greedy.

I wouldve thought they would just included it in the ADSL rental.

As seen on another post yesterday it is shocking that telkom charges so much(R680 or R800) just for a line from your house to the exchange. All this BULL about international costs seems a lie when the ISP charges come in at R300ish.

 

[Peapod]

Hey Chubs
Now you know why we are all so hot under the collar - check out the websites in my previous posting under this topic - even Bulgaria can come in cheaper than SA, my heavens, even mainland China! BTW, we are still struggling to get basic 1st generation ADSL services here in SA - in some countries, they have skipped directly to VFDSL (Very Fast DSL) which gives 8Mb up and downstream, and guess what, it is STILL cheaper than the threadbare service Telkom provide. [:0]
Peapod

 

[Chubs]

Was it your post that said you got back in April or May from the UK?
If it was I know 100% exactly how you feel. Got back from UK in October last year. Heard ADSL was coming out in SA....nearly p**sed myself I was so excited. Went to their site. Typed in my PE number.."March 2004 EXPECTED"!!!!!!!!!!
They did at that stage offer some sort of thing to show that you are interested in the product as per your other post. Finally in June we seem to now have ADSL here although I wont be ordering it, cant qualify spending more in rands than I was in pounds to get a MUCH WORSE service, WITH A LIMIT!!!!!!!!!!!![!]

 

[ASnogarD]

Hi Peapod

Thanks for your effort , maybe I must add the response I got from the goverment regarding SA as a developing country...the e-mail I recieved indicated the person sending it was in the opinion we (SA) was not a 3rd world country technology wise (see this topic : http://www.myadsl.co.za/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=416 ).

 

[DoubleOne]

Sorry it's taken so much time for me to respond. The message I emailed CarteBlanche is no longer, as I have moved to a new company and subsequently have a new PC. One thing I do know us that they never replied to the email so someone may want to send another one.

 

[Karnaugh]

Unfortunate to resurface such a terible excuse for an argument.

Just on the note of bandwidth being expensive in SA. If local bandwidth (IE, the physical lines point to point) were not so expensive, surely the infrastructure would be significantly large enough for hosting to become cheaper and therefore attract peering by other countries.

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[microfast]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Karnaugh</i>

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Hi Karnargue,

Could not resist :

bandwidth = units/unit time
lines ptp = units

units != units/unit time

I have assumed that your [IE] == [=]

 

[Karnaugh]

Local bandwidth is provided by bits of wire surely? Ok, some of it is microwave and radio. Right, so seeing as generaly you require a piece of wire to connect two ends, this costs money, and from telkom it costs a hell of a lot of money based on the bandwidth it uses. All lines are switched through the exchange at different rates, some use more time than others. Time is money.

So then why the hell does telkom charge R10000 more for the same piece of wire that does 2mb instead of 64k and R900000 more for 155 mb instead of 2mb.

So lines ptp are rated and charged as units/unit-time, thanks, good bye.

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