CCNA/CCNP Level Engineers required

[syntax]

Phew...OK. Believe it or not , we are actually trying to help you here. I know it doesn't' look that way.

As a side note - overtime is not outside 9-5. Overtime is unpaid work over 8 hours (or the stipulated working hours) a day.

Your outlook on this job has been consistent throughout. Your stance is "We know what we want and if you don't fit it don't apply". We get that. But , with that outlook , you have employed duds. This is entirely your companies fault.

Lets give you an opportunity to adjust the course of conversation in your favour.

Answer this question : " When should I , as an employee who receives multiple offers a month to move at a higher salary , come to work for you?"

You haven't answered this question...

ok, I appreciate this line of "criticism" much more!
fair enough on the overtime, as I mentioned though, we do get some serious flexi time to try balance out the extra hours we may work.
I dont think we have employed duds, on a senior level we have been pretty good with very few people unhappy or leaving. The junior roles I admit, are more hit and miss. I put it down to the sheer amount of technology they have to try learn and get through, and the way the company works makes it difficult at times for younger / less experienced people.
I also think its because the younger people tend to be unrealistic about their experience, they all want to work on large MPLS networks and do "exciting" cutovers, instead they are the hands and feet and get to join on projects when possible.

I do take your point though, that we may be unrealistic in what we want from the guys. It is something maybe to take to our HR and explain that we may need to change things.

As an employee, I would say there are a few reasons to come work with (please note not for) me.
1. you are tired of operations (you have been at a DD / bcx etc in 1st, 2nd or 3rd line support and are tired of doing that kind of work)
2. you want to expand your technical knowledge across multiple disciplines (we find most big companies segragate routing/switching from security, and pre-sales from implementation, provisioning from core etc) Our company, you are the guy who fits solutions and vendors to clients, spec's everything, and then implements. Its a large responsibilty, but can be refreshing if you are frustrated in the general silo'd roles that occur.
3. If you are a junior, you will literally work and learn from extremely experienced people on a daily basis. You sit next to them, you get taken on projects with them and you get mentored from them (this i think is a big plus for some guys, there is a fast path to your career that can happen here)
4. corporate culture is different. We play pool, we have a bar, there is music in the office, there are no set desks etc.
5. Free studies
6. you are not stuck learning 1 vendors product (I.e cisco being an example) this could be a plus or a negative depending on the engineer
7. If you are a senior, you dont do support, you have freedom to work on projects that you normally dont get to setup from scratch (new mpls networks, DC failover implemetations etc)
8. you get treated like an adult. There is no micromanagement, you do your projects, if your work is done, everyone is happy.

There are negatives definitely, and I think we have covered most of them.
We even have engineers who think some of the above are not positives. For instance, we dont work on the devices everyday. Some guys feel like they are losing touch with their skills and crave that everyday CLI configuration. different strokes i guess.

 

[requiem]

ok, I appreciate this line of "criticism" much more!
fair enough on the overtime, as I mentioned though, we do get some serious flexi time to try balance out the extra hours we may work.
I dont think we have employed duds, on a senior level we have been pretty good with very few people unhappy or leaving. The junior roles I admit, are more hit and miss. I put it down to the sheer amount of technology they have to try learn and get through, and the way the company works makes it difficult at times for younger / less experienced people.
I also think its because the younger people tend to be unrealistic about their experience, they all want to work on large MPLS networks and do "exciting" cutovers, instead they are the hands and feet and get to join on projects when possible.

I do take your point though, that we may be unrealistic in what we want from the guys. It is something maybe to take to our HR and explain that we may need to change things.

As an employee, I would say there are a few reasons to come work with (please note not for) me.
1. you are tired of operations (you have been at a DD / bcx etc in 1st, 2nd or 3rd line support and are tired of doing that kind of work)
2. you want to expand your technical knowledge across multiple disciplines (we find most big companies segragate routing/switching from security, and pre-sales from implementation, provisioning from core etc) Our company, you are the guy who fits solutions and vendors to clients, spec's everything, and then implements. Its a large responsibilty, but can be refreshing if you are frustrated in the general silo'd roles that occur.
3. If you are a junior, you will literally work and learn from extremely experienced people on a daily basis. You sit next to them, you get taken on projects with them and you get mentored from them (this i think is a big plus for some guys, there is a fast path to your career that can happen here)
4. corporate culture is different. We play pool, we have a bar, there is music in the office, there are no set desks etc.
5. Free studies
6. you are not stuck learning 1 vendors product (I.e cisco being an example) this could be a plus or a negative depending on the engineer
7. If you are a senior, you dont do support, you have freedom to work on projects that you normally dont get to setup from scratch (new mpls networks, DC failover implemetations etc)
8. you get treated like an adult. There is no micromanagement, you do your projects, if your work is done, everyone is happy.

There are negatives definitely, and I think we have covered most of them.
We even have engineers who think some of the above are not positives. For instance, we dont work on the devices everyday. Some guys feel like they are losing touch with their skills and crave that everyday CLI configuration. different strokes i guess.

Working flextime and overtime are two different things.

How many hours of unpaid overtime is expected per week?

The problem is your post makes it sound like the amount varies and could be 1 but could be 20 hours a week extra and you will just have to suck it up.

If your business requires you to work outside your clients office hours then make your office hours different - have every Monday off and all changes happen on a Saturday.

Work 10 am to 3 pm six days a week, etc etc


Thus there is never any overtime

 

[joe11]

Good day,

To whom it may concern, I would like to know that how do I apply for this position?

 

[PPLdude]

Sad about these "braindumps". Hoping to get CCNP + CCIE asap after my CCNA

 

[mister]

Good day,
To whom it may concern, I would like to know that how do I apply for this position?

The instructions on how to apply were in the original post, but as you cannot read, I highly recommend not bothering.

 

[papimllk54@gmail.com]

I am interested

I have

• Senior certificate
• National diploma Information technology
• Introduction to Cybersecurity Certificate
• Wireless Technology and Standards Certificate
• CCNA certificate
• Dell Desktops systems Certificate
• Dell notebooks systems Certificate
• Dell Servers Certificate
• Dell Printers Certificate
• Dell alienware Certificate
• Dell dispatch policies and procedures Certificate
• Community service certificate
• Course in Reading development Certificate

 

[watsup]

I am interested ,

I am interested and I live in MIdrand and I am CCNA level engineer,,my email is tondemupandi@gmail.com

Both CCNA and CCNP level Engineers required for technically driven company in midrand area to join the routing, switching and security team.

Please DO NOT apply if:
You braindumped and/or are not at a CCNA or CCNP level. You will be tested on your technical abilities and understanding of concepts.
You only want to work on Cisco. We are a vendor neutral company and use technologies and vendors that fit client requirements
You are against doing physical labour like racking and stacking (or feel this is beneath you)
You only want to do routing or switching. The team includes security and the engineer is expected to provide end to end solutions (when they are ready)
Are a clock watcher and are adverse to travelling to Africa and/or working overtime (its IT, get used to it)
dislike loud(ish) environments and team members who may support rubbish football teams

Send me a PM for details if:
You love a challenge
are at a real CCNA or CCNP level
Dont fall apart when working on multiple vendors across multiple technologies
Enjoy high pressure, project based consulting and implementation work
Dont mind doing grunt work in the beginning, and sometimes later on as well
are technology instead of vendor driven

Again, we have interviewed loads of CCNA/CCNP/CCIE written (or vendor equivelant like JNCIP etc) candidates who have brain dumped and/or have somehow stumbled their way through their IT career. These interviews waste yours and our time and get pretty annoying after a while.
If you are confident you are at a CCNA or CCNP equivelant level please PM me and we can kick start the process

 

[netshir]

I have CCNA (University of Pretoria), and CCENT Certification

 

[Voicy]

I am willing to bet you don't have a family. But, FWIW I know your kind... just always remember, loyalty in any SA company is non-existent. They will kick you on your arse faster than you can say "haibo" when their ship heads for the iceberg.

Sadly this is true.

I spent 5yrs at a company where the director said I was "like a son" to them. Worked 120hrs overtime the one month without receiving overtime pay and seldom left before 7pm in other months with no extra pay, just to get the job done. I actually felt guilty for resigning when they wanted to move me to the Pretoria office...then I saw the negative reference they gave to my new employer. Nope.

At my current job I now frequently pull 150hrs overtime a month on projects, but I also take home more than the owner does when this occurs. We never even discussed the salary before I was appointed. They used Syntax's approach by saying exactly how it is. Expect to work hard, but know you'll be taken care of. If you're going to sit on FB all day or leave the job incomplete by 4pm when you leave then it's not the fit for you. There's also nothing that's "Below you." I often spend friday nights wiring up control panels or washing oil and crap off generators or sweeping floors to clean the place. I never thought I'd love moving from white collar corporate to blue collar work.

 

[Kinzonzi]

Hi.I have a IT certificate and a CCENT and CCNA certificate as weel.

Both CCNA and CCNP level Engineers required for technically driven company in midrand area to join the routing, switching and security team.

Please DO NOT apply if:
You braindumped and/or are not at a CCNA or CCNP level. You will be tested on your technical abilities and understanding of concepts.
You only want to work on Cisco. We are a vendor neutral company and use technologies and vendors that fit client requirements
You are against doing physical labour like racking and stacking (or feel this is beneath you)
You only want to do routing or switching. The team includes security and the engineer is expected to provide end to end solutions (when they are ready)
Are a clock watcher and are adverse to travelling to Africa and/or working overtime (its IT, get used to it)
dislike loud(ish) environments and team members who may support rubbish football teams

Send me a PM for details if:
You love a challenge
are at a real CCNA or CCNP level
Dont fall apart when working on multiple vendors across multiple technologies
Enjoy high pressure, project based consulting and implementation work
Dont mind doing grunt work in the beginning, and sometimes later on as well
are technology instead of vendor driven

Again, we have interviewed loads of CCNA/CCNP/CCIE written (or vendor equivelant like JNCIP etc) candidates who have brain dumped and/or have somehow stumbled their way through their IT career. These interviews waste yours and our time and get pretty annoying after a while.
If you are confident you are at a CCNA or CCNP equivelant level please PM me and we can kick start the process

Hi. I recently graduated in Information Technology at the ICT Learner Center in Troyeville. I aso completed the CCENT and CCNA exams. I am currently looking for an opportunity to grow my knowledge in the same domain. I have very good understanding in Routing and Switching.

[email and cell redacted]

 

[gregmcc]

Did you not read the part about PM'ing the OP?

Fail. He will never get the job.

 

[KOPITE]

Both CCNA and CCNP level Engineers required for technically driven company in midrand area to join the routing, switching and security team.

Please DO NOT apply if:
You braindumped and/or are not at a CCNA or CCNP level. You will be tested on your technical abilities and understanding of concepts.
You only want to work on Cisco. We are a vendor neutral company and use technologies and vendors that fit client requirements
You are against doing physical labour like racking and stacking (or feel this is beneath you)
You only want to do routing or switching. The team includes security and the engineer is expected to provide end to end solutions (when they are ready)
Are a clock watcher and are adverse to travelling to Africa and/or working overtime (its IT, get used to it)
dislike loud(ish) environments and team members who may support rubbish football teams

Send me a PM for details if:
You love a challenge
are at a real CCNA or CCNP level
Dont fall apart when working on multiple vendors across multiple technologies
Enjoy high pressure, project based consulting and implementation work
Dont mind doing grunt work in the beginning, and sometimes later on as well
are technology instead of vendor driven

Again, we have interviewed loads of CCNA/CCNP/CCIE written (or vendor equivelant like JNCIP etc) candidates who have brain dumped and/or have somehow stumbled their way through their IT career. These interviews waste yours and our time and get pretty annoying after a while.
If you are confident you are at a CCNA or CCNP equivelant level please PM me and we can kick start the process

Just my view on your post OP

You sound very offensive by demanding people not to apply if you not very skilled. you use words like, DO NOT, braindumped, clock watcher, (its IT, get used to it), rubbish. You chasing prospective employees away with your tone of language. Don't treat people like live stock and you dealing with people's feelings and emotions.

It seems to me that you think everyone is desperate for work and that you can treat people like you want. I would never deal with a company where you associated with. Been there, done that. those times of abusing people has past long time ago.

Change your attitude while you at it

 

[JoshuaL32]

JoshuaL32

Hi there,

I trust you are well,I have relevant work experience in the area of Network Engineering, since I possess all the necessary qualification to perform my duties in effective and efficient manner. As you may note in the enclosed resume, I have excellent results in managing network resource among different projects in order to maintain the quality portfolio. In addition I have demonstrated capability to understand technological and business initiatives, and I am experienced in the managing of teams to ensure punctual completion of work, preserving expected workload of each team member. Furthermore I would like to point out that I am well acquainted with Business Objects, MS Office and other software.

2014 CCNA International qualification - Torque IT
2012 CCNP (ADVANCED COMNET) CCNA security - Cape Peninsula University of Technology
2011 CCNA, A+, N+, Fundamentals of Linux- Cape Peninsula University of Technology

[cell and email redacted]

Thanks

Both CCNA and CCNP level Engineers required for technically driven company in midrand area to join the routing, switching and security team.

Please DO NOT apply if:
You braindumped and/or are not at a CCNA or CCNP level. You will be tested on your technical abilities and understanding of concepts.
You only want to work on Cisco. We are a vendor neutral company and use technologies and vendors that fit client requirements
You are against doing physical labour like racking and stacking (or feel this is beneath you)
You only want to do routing or switching. The team includes security and the engineer is expected to provide end to end solutions (when they are ready)
Are a clock watcher and are adverse to travelling to Africa and/or working overtime (its IT, get used to it)
dislike loud(ish) environments and team members who may support rubbish football teams

Send me a PM for details if:
You love a challenge
are at a real CCNA or CCNP level
Dont fall apart when working on multiple vendors across multiple technologies
Enjoy high pressure, project based consulting and implementation work
Dont mind doing grunt work in the beginning, and sometimes later on as well
are technology instead of vendor driven

Again, we have interviewed loads of CCNA/CCNP/CCIE written (or vendor equivelant like JNCIP etc) candidates who have brain dumped and/or have somehow stumbled their way through their IT career. These interviews waste yours and our time and get pretty annoying after a while.
If you are confident you are at a CCNA or CCNP equivelant level please PM me and we can kick start the process

 

[The_Unbeliever]

Standby allowance?
Overtime?
Flexitime?

Or is it a case of:
The boss earning R100K+ per month gets to go home at 16:00 to spend time with his family while the IT guy earning R30K per month needs to put his job before the well being of his family?

Sorry for being so negative but I've seen so many employers abuse IT staff regarding working hours that I take an issue with the "bend over and take it" attitude.

Agreed. My children are more important. If somebody expects me to work for free after-hours then that is just not on. They can jolly well pay me for my time.

I've been abused regularly on that particular aspect, this time I'm putting my foot down.

 

[muazzamb]

If I don't watch the clock I would never get to work every day.

 

[The_Unbeliever]

Just one question... what do they mean with "braindumped"?

Sounds as if you tried to download the CCNP study material directly into your brain, but midway had a bluescreen, causing you to braindump?

 

[Sonic2k]

Just one question... what do they mean with "braindumped"?

Sounds as if you tried to download the CCNP study material directly into your brain, but midway had a bluescreen, causing you to braindump?

Your description is correct...

 

[Sinbad]

Just one question... what do they mean with "braindumped"?

Sounds as if you tried to download the CCNP study material directly into your brain, but midway had a bluescreen, causing you to braindump?

You can get hold of the complete set of exam questions and answers - so you just memorise them without understanding the concepts.

 

[Sonic2k]

You can get hold of the complete set of exam questions and answers - so you just memorise them without understanding the concepts.

Same as trying to pass some subjects at university..

 

[Sinbad]

Same as trying to pass some subjects at university..

Yup

I got accused of braindumping the CCNA exam back in 2001. I didn't think braindumps were around back then. It's inconceivable to some people that you can actually pick up all the knowledge that you need just by working in the industry