Cell C looking at job cuts

the balancing act in a competitive market!
 
...and at the end of restructuring and retrenchments they all will have one CEO, regional manager and two technicians for each regional manager each...
 
Ivanr said:
Cheaper pricing not sustainable :D
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Probably as a result of asymmetry not given to them as initially planned by ICASA.

Ockie said:
Maybe if they had fixed their network their customers would have stayed loyal to them and they would have been in a better situation?
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Rubbish,go look at the figures majority of their customers are still with them,they are actually gaining customers monthly.Sure they have lost many but they have gained many more,the net result is a positive gain monthly.

They need a certain number of subscribers to be able to be profitable they obviously haven't gotten there yet and also ICASA screwed them and Telkom mobile over with the latest rates not giving the smaller players the same benefits granted to Vodacom and MTN when they were developing.
 
Uh-oh.

Was about to renew a contract, but will now rather let it expire and then port to another network.

This is a red flag concerning a company's health and future prospects as far as I know.
 
CuppaJoe said:
Uh-oh.

Was about to renew a contract, but will now rather let it expire and then port to another network.

This is a red flag concerning a company's health and future prospects as far as I know.
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Your statement doesn't make much sense to me since I am on a contract with them already if they close down(which I cant see happening because of the big backers they have) how will it affect you/me?:confused:

If they somehow close down then simply go onto the big two and get raped again,its easy now because they are facing competition and have had to drop their prices but if Cell C closes down it will quickly escalate to violent rape because they will definitely lift their prices again,simple really.
 
falcon786 said:
Probably as a result of asymmetry not given to them as initially planned by ICASA.



Rubbish,go look at the figures majority of their customers are still with them,they are actually gaining customers monthly.Sure they have lost many but they have gained many more,the net result is a positive gain monthly.

They need a certain number of subscribers to be able to be profitable they obviously haven't gotten there yet and also ICASA screwed them and Telkom mobile over with the latest rates not giving the smaller players the same benefits granted to Vodacom and MTN when they were developing.
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Number of subscribers is not all. It is the value they bring in which is.
No corporate in the right mind is going to put their staff on Cell C failing network.
Those I know on Cell C are waiting for the day there contracts are finished to move back. I am talking guys spending R750+ month here. They rather pay R1000 to Vodacom or MTN and have a business/job.

So your statement is rubbish...
 
falcon786 said:
Your statement doesn't make much sense to me since I am on a contract with them already if they close down(which I cant see happening because of the big backers they have) how will it affect you/me?:confused:

If they somehow close down then simply go onto the big two and get raped again,its easy now because they are facing competition and have had to drop their prices but if Cell C closes down it will quickly escalate to violent rape because they will definitely lift their prices again,simple really.
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Whoa, horsey.

I did not not say they are going to close down, all I meant was that if they have to cut costs this way, they probably don't have the funds to sort out the network issues either, and I do not want to be a part of it anymore.
 
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qwertydudeza said:
Number of subscribers is not all. It is the value they bring in which is.
No corporate in the right mind is going to put their staff on Cell C failing network.
Those I know on Cell C are waiting for the day there contracts are finished to move back. I am talking guys spending R750+ month here. They rather pay R1000 to Vodacom or MTN and have a business/job.

So your statement is rubbish...
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Yeah I run many of my business lines on Cell C with no problem,my own line gets hundreds of minutes worth of calls every week,sure once in a while there are disconnects and signal dropping especially if you are driving in specific spots it always drops but not more so than I have experienced with MTN in the past.

I'm not saying their network is perfect there are places where it sucks like hell(Fordsburg for example in JHB can make calls but receives no data throughput) but its not as bad as some make it out to be relative to the other networks,Vodacom has absolutely zero signal in our building/complex btw for calls or data....Cell C and MTN get full reception here,I'm sure in other places its reversed,point is no network is perfect.


CuppaJoe said:
Whoa, horsey.

I did not not say they are going to close down, all I meant was that if they have to cut costs this way, they probably don't have the funds to sort out the network issues either, and I do not want to be a part of it anymore.
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Well if your area has crappy network on any particular network then you should definitely stay away from that network,as per my reply above non of my staff have Vodacom,they are all either on Cell C or MTN because Vodacom has no network in our building/complex.

I'm hoping you're wrong about them not having the funds to improve the network,if anything I'm guessing they are simply diverting money where its more needed,especially in light of an impending LTE announcement which is long overdue,if Cell C don't announce LTE soon then in the long run they will fail just like they did when they did not launch 3G for a long time.

They said something about announcing something by today on the LTE front,but it seems very quiet today....that will actually be something that will affect me in the future directly and if they don't get their LTE act together soon they may be left out in the cold.
 
CuppaJoe said:
Uh-oh.

Was about to renew a contract, but will now rather let it expire and then port to another network.

This is a red flag concerning a company's health and future prospects as far as I know.
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Telkom is also retrenching, and so did MTN i'm sure. So...
 
It's telecoms as a sector.. It's been under pressure since 2007/8 due legislative changes and competition.. kinda why I changed careers albeit I love telecoms :-(

The telecoms boom years are long past us and SA as a market (is mature) as well as most African countries is developed sufficiently to cater for needs.

Personally I hope the telecoms guys can find something to move onto as its not a great time to be stuck in it as I don't see this ever going back to the good ole days of 1997-2005 when money was flowing like crazy for all involved in telecoms
 
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