Charge speeding BMW M4 driver with murder, RTMC urges

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Johannesburg - The Road Traffic Management Corporation (RTMC) has urged prosecution authorities to charge a young male who crashed a BMW M4 in Vereeniging with murder.
A video of the crash in which two people died and another person was seriously injured went viral recently. It shows the occupants of the vehicle urging the driver to speed shortly before the crash.
None of the passengers were wearing safety belts.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1039040252067893248

More at: https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/indu...bmw-m4-driver-with-murder-rtmc-urges-17023677
 
Should be murder regardless of being under the influence or not. Too many of these speeding idiots.
 
Maybe if they had seatbelts on, but the passengers didn't care about that, and if they were then even urging him on to speed... their issue. Normal manslaughter charge is enough. And you'll know how I hate speeders, so saying just manslaughter is enough should tell you a lot.
 
Cousin (33) died from youngster who drove through red light and hit her as she was crossing the road. He sped off, and by the time he was arrested, too many hours had passed for an alcohol test. At the court, his defence attorney said the light was not red and he was actually trying to avoid her. He negated 3 witnesses by saying they could not possibly have seen the light was red as the sun was in their eyes, or there was a large lorry in the way or the angle precluded seeing which light was on

Fellow was acquitted. Magistrate refused to consider the charge of leaving the scene of an accident

3 months later, family receive summons for damage to car amounting to R130000
 
chrisc said:
Cousin (33) died from youngster who drove through red light and hit her as she was crossing the road. He sped off, and by the time he was arrested, too many hours had passed for an alcohol test. At the court, his defence attorney said the light was not red and he was actually trying to avoid her. He negated 3 witnesses by saying they could not possibly have seen the light was red as the sun was in their eyes, or there was a large lorry in the way or the angle precluded seeing which light was on

Fellow was acquitted. Magistrate refused to consider the charge of leaving the scene of an accident

3 months later, family receive summons for damage to car amounting to R130000
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I'd kill him if it was my family and he got off.
 
supersunbird said:
Maybe if they had seatbelts on, but the passengers didn't care about that, and if they were then even urging him on to speed... their issue. Normal manslaughter charge is enough. And you'll know how I hate speeders, so saying just manslaughter is enough should tell you a lot.
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IMHO the lack of indicators on BMWs is what caused the crash.

Lucky enough, they didn’t harm any innocent.

I agree for manslaughter, proving murder and the intent would be very hard.
 
supersunbird said:
I'd kill him if it was my family and he got off.
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Her mother declined after the accident and died 18 months later. Her father moved to Australia. She was a gynecologist and had 2 children. He still gets demands for the R130k from time to time

The youngster driver is the son of a parliamentarian. Quite the rudest person I have ever met
 
…..the crash in which two people died and another person was seriously injured went viral recently.
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https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/indu...bmw-m4-driver-with-murder-rtmc-urges-17023677

I wonder if the court will be guided by the 2009 case where Sifiso Zulu killed two students and crippled a third after running a red robot in his X5. He served only nine months out of a three year sentence.
I include the entire article because the link no longer works and forum members are entitled to ask if strings were pulled to protect one of the people mentioned.

Crash-scene officer accuse Cele
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Nivashni Nair Published:Aug 04, 2009
Court told of top cop’s involvement in friend’s case

NEW national police chief Bheki Cele was implicated yesterday in the drunken-driving case involving Durban businessman and socialite Sifiso Zulu, in which two people were killed.

Shortly after the crash in March last year, Cele was acused of “protecting” Zulu, a close friend. Zulu was not arrested despite his luxury car being at the accident scene in Durban. Cele claimed he had fetched Zulu from his home and taken him to the accident scene.

Yesterday, a Durban metro police officer told the Durban Magistrate’s Court that he did not understand why Cele, then KwaZulu-Natal’s transport MEC, had arrived at the scene of the accident and had insisted that the vehicle be returned to its owner.

Captain Shane Spilsbury, who saw the BMW “shoot a red robot at high speed” before crashing into a bakkie, said Cele arrived 20 minutes after the collision.

“ ‘[He ] wasn’t happy. I wondered why he [got] involved. I pointed out to him that the vehicle was falsely registered and that the driver must have been drinking, but he didn’t believe me. I had to radio to the control room so he could hear that the vehicle was falsely registered,” Spilsbury said.

Zulu pleaded guilty yesterday to displaying a number plate that did not belong to his vehicle and to not registering his BMW.

But he pleaded not guilty to two counts of culpable homicide, and to reckless driving, failing to stop at a traffic light, and to a 2006 drunken - driving charge.

Zulu’s defence is that he was not the driver of the vehicle at the time of the accident. He has given a driver’s name to the police.

Spilsbury said the number plates on the BMW matched those of an unknown Toyota vehicle.

He said Cele “must have known” the identity of the owner of the BMW because he got into an argument with the SAPS officer in charge of the accident scene.

At the time of the crash, the victims, congregants of the Soul’s Harbour Ministries, returning from a late-night prayer service, accused Cele of a cover-up.

Initial reports claimed that Zulu had surrendered to the police after the accident and had admitted to owning the vehicle. But, a week later, Cele said publicly he had picked Zulu up from his [Zulu’s] flat, on the Point Waterfront, and taken him to the scene.

Metro police claim they escorted Zulu to a police station to report that the vehicle was his.

Spilsbury yesterday recalled the crash and seeing “bodies in the air” and two men running from the scene. He had assumed they were pedestrians.

Spilsbury said that, shortly after the crash, he was called to the Durban Central police station, where he saw Zulu sitting in a passage.

“I looked at him and my mind went back to the accident and I stopped and asked if he was the driver of the BMW. He said ‘No’ and started crying.”

Spilsbury asked Zulu where he had been at the time of the crash.

“He said he was in Musgrave and had been drinking with his friends. He said he took a cab home. We asked him who was driving his BMW and he didn’t answer,” Spilsbury said.

He added that Zulu’s eyes were “bloodshot, [his] speech slurred; he didn’t seem coherent and smelt of alcohol”.
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http://www.thetimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1044364 Link failed
 
chrisc said:
Cousin (33) died from youngster who drove through red light and hit her as she was crossing the road. He sped off, and by the time he was arrested, too many hours had passed for an alcohol test. At the court, his defence attorney said the light was not red and he was actually trying to avoid her. He negated 3 witnesses by saying they could not possibly have seen the light was red as the sun was in their eyes, or there was a large lorry in the way or the angle precluded seeing which light was on

Fellow was acquitted. Magistrate refused to consider the charge of leaving the scene of an accident

3 months later, family receive summons for damage to car amounting to R130000
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Not the first time I've heard a story like this... these fukkers get away with it... they have an answer for everything.
 
The passenger has a glass of beer with him, the car had a range of just over 20kms, and the dash had warning lights like a Christmas tree.
 
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