China - Taiwan Developments

Paulsie said:
Yeah, ask the Falkland islanderd what they have to say about this
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Well Falklands is another topic.
Military might is a better measure than land mass.
To be even more precise, it is the projection.
Or ease of projection of that might which would be better as a factor.

Falkland islands are way further from England/UK.
Than Taiwan is from China.
But also, England has a trusted heritage of building and projecting force.
Chinese ships still have to show us they can cross that straight.
Effectively.
 
Paulsie said:
Logic is irrelevant.

What's important here is the actual UN and diplomatic recognition of Taiwan. Get the majority to back Taiwan, then we have something to talk about.
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You do know events that led to the recognition of CCP's PRC as representatives of China, don't you? At the time, Taiwan was not even part of the mainland.
 
So apart from China huffing and puffing and - as Donald Trump called her - Scary Poppins Pelosi enjoying a few kaoliangs with Tsai Ing-wen over a stripper or two .........

.......... how far would all of this rhetoric between the two go?

China has pegged the Yuan to the US$. The US owes China $1,2 tn or so, around 5.5% of US debt.
If China called that in, and said pay me Yankee Beeatch ..... what would happen?

Well for one, the dollar would depreciate a bit ....... the Yuan would appreciate ..... so, Chinese goods would start to become a bit more costly.
The US would probably hit a major inflationary period - but China would sit with a problem too, as demand for goods would be down ........

Regardless of the wartime aspirations - the economic implications would be terrible.

Of course - things need to get a bit worse before all of this happens ...... and, well, Petunia Poppins is there in Taiwan ............. lets see what happens.
 
Paulsie said:
Yeah, ask the Falkland islanderd what they have to say about this
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Most of the Falkland Islanders are pro-Britain. It's Argentina that wants the territory under their control (I agree with them to some extend).
 
MunosMachos said:
You don't even know what I am talking about but claim that you did mention it.
Escalation in Ukrainians shelling each other.
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References for that please? It would help if you made yourself clear from the beginning.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
did you magically miss the part where China stated outright this is their redline weeks ago already? (and repeatedly over the past few decades)

of course the US is the provocateur
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All bark no bite
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A simple, sane response would be: "this is an extremely complicated arbitration with a lot of history that needs unraveling, by the parties involved".
However, U.S. policy is "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Hence, Al-Nusra, Juan Guaido, Azov, Taiwan, blah.
 
hexagon said:
A simple, sane response would be: "this is an extremely complicated arbitration with a lot of history that needs unraveling, by the parties involved".
However, U.S. policy is "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Hence, Al-Nusra, Juan Guaido, Azov, Taiwan, blah.
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The US's biggest trading partner is actually its enemy?
 
TEXTILE GUY said:
So apart from China huffing and puffing and - as Donald Trump called her - Scary Poppins Pelosi enjoying a few kaoliangs with Tsai Ing-wen over a stripper or two .........

.......... how far would all of this rhetoric between the two go?

China has pegged the Yuan to the US$. The US owes China $1,2 tn or so, around 5.5% of US debt.
If China called that in, and said pay me Yankee Beeatch ..... what would happen?

Well for one, the dollar would depreciate a bit ....... the Yuan would appreciate ..... so, Chinese goods would start to become a bit more costly.
The US would probably hit a major inflationary period - but China would sit with a problem too, as demand for goods would be down ........

Regardless of the wartime aspirations - the economic implications would be terrible.

Of course - things need to get a bit worse before all of this happens ...... and, well, Petunia Poppins is there in Taiwan ............. lets see what happens.
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They will not do so, but not for the reasons you mentioned.

China primarily holds US treasuries. The yields of these have a strong effects on the yields/rates of commercial bond markets.

If China dumped all treasuries, this would result in steep increase in treasury as well as bond yields (to cover for increase in long term risk). Now remember that the higher the yield (interest), the more expensive it is for the bond ussuer to cover the cost. At zero or negative interest rates, the issuer simply rolls over the bond (issues a new one to pay off the old one when they become due). When interest rates rise, this is no longer possible as the bond issuer cannot afford the increased interest. Bankruptcies occur.

And as the saying goes, if America sneezes, the world catches cold. Soon, the rise in yields in the US would spill over into Chinese markets. As they are 3the same situation (over leveraged), bankruptcies would also happen there.

Lose lose situation.
 
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