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Chiptuning for fuel economy
- Thread starter metalcore
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That is extremely dangerous, if the vehicle is unloaded and not @ the proper weight for those pressures!
It is recommende to increase or stay within normal reccomended tyre pressures for the specific weight and situation.
High pressure reduce contact area of tyre and cause the tyre to lose grip, if not loaded with appropriate weight for pressure.
The only other reason for high tyre pressure is if you drive a focus st with low profiles and do alot of driving above 160km/h.
It could also increase the risk of a blow out and damage and create incorrect tyre wear!
If you need more power out of a panda why did you buy it in the first place?
The best way to save fuel is not to make yourself drive slow, but drive properly and to keep the car in optimal running condition.
The Chip only helps beacause it adjust the car to be more suitable to your driving style and needs by giving power where you need it and by being correctly setup for where you want it to have power via the changing the map(Engine setup, Fuel/Air Mix..) of the engine and reading the results of a dyno's power/torque graphs.
Also if you fit better exhausts and stuff that helps the engine operate more effieciently, but it doesn't help if you put stuff on that is not designed for the appropriate vehicle and use.
Like putting the biggest exhaust, you can get on your 1300 tazz = Fail!
kevinswan007
Expert Member
where in cape town can I get my focus chipped? and how much would it cost?
oh and will it cause problems with my warranty?
oh and will it cause problems with my warranty?
Which Focus model is it?
To be able to keep your warranty, you will have to either use a Dastek Unichip P&P or Dreamscience/Bluefin Hanheld units.
I would recommend the Dreamscience/Bluefin, also depending on the car you have. They gained 20KM and 58Nm on a std 2.0TDCi Focus.
PM me your details and i will find out about a supplier and proper dynotuning workshop.
kevin, chipping a NA engine is just not worth it, dont waste your money.
JungleRumble
Well-Known Member
Are these plug-in plug-out systems worth it? I notice many adverts in the Car for them. Plug in, drive, plug out when you take car in for service.
Depends on type of car and how good the tuner+dyno is.
On Ford's you get these Dreamscience/Bluefin handhelds, that you plug in on the onboard computer/ecu diagnostic port and it saves your factory software and maps ei backups std settings etc.. Then you van load the new maps that came with the unit for the specific car / custom tune it @ a proper tuner.
They work great and a std TDCi focus gains +-20KW and 58Nm.
The big difference that they do make is that they can change the map of the engine to more or less suite your driving style. That is where the gains in Fuel Economy comes in it gives you the extra power where you want it for the way you drive = less full throttle + big gains in Fuel Economy.
On Ford's you get these Dreamscience/Bluefin handhelds, that you plug in on the onboard computer/ecu diagnostic port and it saves your factory software and maps ei backups std settings etc.. Then you van load the new maps that came with the unit for the specific car / custom tune it @ a proper tuner.
They work great and a std TDCi focus gains +-20KW and 58Nm.
The big difference that they do make is that they can change the map of the engine to more or less suite your driving style. That is where the gains in Fuel Economy comes in it gives you the extra power where you want it for the way you drive = less full throttle + big gains in Fuel Economy.
We gained 5KW on a 1.6 n/a in Gauteng.
Anything above or below that, but it all depends on type of engine, condition, optimal performance for specific engine.
The Dastec Plug and Play's are also good, but it depends more on the guy that is tuning it and the dynometer.
Any 1 can tune an engine to give max power, but the thing is to still keep it drive able and reliable.
Anything above or below that, but it all depends on type of engine, condition, optimal performance for specific engine.
The Dastec Plug and Play's are also good, but it depends more on the guy that is tuning it and the dynometer.
Any 1 can tune an engine to give max power, but the thing is to still keep it drive able and reliable.
Wow thats tiny!! some air could do that, freeing up intake & outlet?
I'm more intrested in fuel economy what will those gains be like? I'm getting about max 10km/L combined cycle. Which is
at the price per LI am not sure, last i heard he was still checking the Fuel Economy claim.
Some other things:
-Good quality K&N or something flatpad airfilter/ new stock oem airfilter, some say the aftermarket replacements don't work as good as the oem's on air quality, not volume.
-Apparantly a good quality induction kit helps alot, with some dynotuning to adapt engine to new amount of air etc.
-A properly designed/made exhaust, too big can create a drop in power @ certain revs. The best i know of is powerflow, but that alos depends on area. The guy in dbn is apparantly very good.
-Remove any unnessecary drag creating items, weight
-Correct tyre pressure not too hard, can create irregular wear. Keep as close to factory spec, but compensate for no of people load etc.
-Good quality oil, can also help the engine work beter.
-Regular serviceing.
-best for last driving style:
-Put car in higher gear/correct gear when going downhill/uphill, do not put in neutral/clutch in/idle on modern fuel injected cars. Don't let the engine work to hard/struggle/stall.
- good following distance, anticipate traffic ahead when possible, use engine braking to reduce some speed less braking= less wear and energy converted into heat, but be sure that there is adquite space=following distance.
-Reduce speed in traffic situations and when possible on cruising, lower cruising speed in traffic = less acceleration required to get up to speed, also will help the flow of traffic. 100Km/h is alot more fuel efficient than to maintain 120-140 depending on car.
Some other things:
-Good quality K&N or something flatpad airfilter/ new stock oem airfilter, some say the aftermarket replacements don't work as good as the oem's on air quality, not volume.
-Apparantly a good quality induction kit helps alot, with some dynotuning to adapt engine to new amount of air etc.
-A properly designed/made exhaust, too big can create a drop in power @ certain revs. The best i know of is powerflow, but that alos depends on area. The guy in dbn is apparantly very good.
-Remove any unnessecary drag creating items, weight
-Correct tyre pressure not too hard, can create irregular wear. Keep as close to factory spec, but compensate for no of people load etc.
-Good quality oil, can also help the engine work beter.
-Regular serviceing.
-best for last driving style:
-Put car in higher gear/correct gear when going downhill/uphill, do not put in neutral/clutch in/idle on modern fuel injected cars. Don't let the engine work to hard/struggle/stall.
- good following distance, anticipate traffic ahead when possible, use engine braking to reduce some speed less braking= less wear and energy converted into heat, but be sure that there is adquite space=following distance.
-Reduce speed in traffic situations and when possible on cruising, lower cruising speed in traffic = less acceleration required to get up to speed, also will help the flow of traffic. 100Km/h is alot more fuel efficient than to maintain 120-140 depending on car.
JungleRumble
Well-Known Member
Big Bear - is it worth using the "plug-in plug-out" system on my Navara? I drive the 128Kw 403Nm diesel. Will I gain anything?
Plus your car would be lighter too!!
Rather invest in a brick, and put it underneath your accelerate pedal.
http://www.stevesautoclinic.co.za/Road tests/Nissan Navara.html
According to them it could increase power and torque by 10%
which = 12-13KW and +-40Nm Torque.
I haven't had any experience with them, but it depends on how good the engine is and the tuner. They say it costs only R5000, but it could be more.
The gains look good if they get that much out of it, you would be looking @
140KW and 443NM. They also change the mapping of how the power is delivered and should give better driveability.
It is all up to you and it should work great if everything goes according to plan.
Just remember everything comes @ a price and if they get it wrong, you could be looking @ some expensive repairs!-Just A Warning. They have the're warranties just for incase.
fusion01
Well-Known Member
Chip will save a little fuel as less rpm's = less fuel consumption. However, R6k+ for a decent chip (I'm talking REVO / Superchips etc) is how many tankful's of gas? You'll also run the risk of voiding any warranty and can add serious strain to certain engine components (ie best to upgrade your DV on a turbo-charged car at the same time - additional cost above and beyond that of the chip). It's like a diesel over a petrol: due to the premium, you've got to drive a hell of a lot to pay the difference off. Personally, I'd never remap your ECU / purchase a chip for fuel savings... only for performance. Final word: as to 'savings', it's a con really unless you're going to drive millions of km's, I'd guess.