Hie guys I recently started studying CCNA but in my quest for experience I am willing to sacrifice my current job as an Office Admin Manager at a certain company in Rivonia.I stay in Midrand and am even willing to accept a pay cut,as long as I get into a tech company that can expose me to what I am studying.Any Leads out there guys??Thank you so much.
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koeksGHT
Dealer
What do you want to do?
I have just started on the ICND course 1 and 2 and have also been wondering which route to take. I currently work in VMWare and train the product and would like to fall inline with that and the networking. Hopefully something will show which direction to take, any suggestions though are welcome.
eCliPSe
Well-Known Member
Hi there,
I am a CCNA,CCNA Voice, CCNA Security , CCNA Design , CCNP and a CCNP Design. I am studying for my CCNP Security right now.
Get your certification first. Take the ICND1 and the ICND2 exams. Use GNS3 and also check out www.careercert.info for some image files/ bin files.
Then move on to a new career.
a CCNA is a great advantage to anyone in the IT industry. Be it Your a Microsoft Server Engineer or a Data Base administrator it gives you a great foundation and understanding of key fundamentals of networking.
Good Luck there are a lot of people talking the talk when it comes to getting Cisco Certification not many that does it.
I am a CCNA,CCNA Voice, CCNA Security , CCNA Design , CCNP and a CCNP Design. I am studying for my CCNP Security right now.
Get your certification first. Take the ICND1 and the ICND2 exams. Use GNS3 and also check out www.careercert.info for some image files/ bin files.
Then move on to a new career.
a CCNA is a great advantage to anyone in the IT industry. Be it Your a Microsoft Server Engineer or a Data Base administrator it gives you a great foundation and understanding of key fundamentals of networking.
Good Luck there are a lot of people talking the talk when it comes to getting Cisco Certification not many that does it.
Awesome info bud thanks. For me it's to better understand what they are doing within VMware and there distributed switches but I also might make it a career change. Salary wise is it viable?
YAY! a vmware guy who actually cares about the virtual switching part and wants to know whats happening!!
there are far too few VM guys who care about this, and it causes us endless headaches!!
Security is not easy to get into unfortunately.
The path is "usually" via networks, then the move to security.
I would say your best bet is to approach HR of the larger providers and see what you come up with.
By pay cut, what exactly do you mean?
As a no experience techie trying to bust into networks / security, i would say you are lucky to get away with 6 - 8k.
However, if you have other skills that could perhaps justifiy a larger salary, maybe you get lucky?
If you want, i can send you details of our HR recruitment and you can try?
eCliPSe
Well-Known Member
LOOL so true xD Its frustrating dealing with Engineers that doesnt understand whats happening on the switching part.
As regards to if cisco is financial feasible to have a CCNA. Starting pay for someone with a CCNA with no exp is about 12-15k . But the truth is that it enriches you so much as an engineer. I use to be a Desktop engineer working with Windows systems including Windows servers. I know how it is when your a Windows Microsoft engineer. You think you understand something about networks. The truth is most dont.... unless they have something like a CCNA behind their names. All the great MS engineers i know do have a CCNA. And I for one love working with them on projects.
12-15k?
I would say that is optomistic. Ask any of the other guys here who just have a CCNA how much they got offered?
I would say 6 - 10k is more likely...and thats if..a big if...you can find a position
Thanks for the Info, I'm going for my CCNA next moth and I hope to take the N+ exam also next moth if everything goes as planned. I'm a broadcast technician currently and with everything in broadcasting in being networked I thought I need to better understand networking and I think I should have been a IT technician as I enjoy computers more...
NeonNinja
Neon Resident
Next moth I'm moving.
no such thing, I believe you are referring to CCDP ;-)
In any case, chances of you landing a mid- to high-paying job just with a CCNa is slim, but like you said, it is a start.
for CCNP Security you will need to first do CCNA Security before you can progress to CCNP Security. That being said, I usually give this advise to people who are just starting out in the networking space, ESPECIALLY the in the Cisco realm.
Do you CCNA RS, and then move on to you CCNP RS. While busy with that, do the foundation/associate-level certification whatever you want to specialize in, i.e. Security, Voice, Wireless, etc. this means that by the time you are done with CCNP you should have at least the foundational understanding of the specialist subject matter, and from there priogress to the professional-level certifications.
At the end of the day you need to have a solid understanding of general networking principles before you can run specialized services on them, i.e. voice, security, wireless, etc. You can't secure something if you don't know how it works, inside and out.
Another reason why I recommend the "greener' network techs to go all the way with routing and switching is because a comapny is more likely to offer someone with less experience a general network engineering job than someone applying for a specialized position.
So to recap, I suggest go CCNA > CCNP RS, and then apply for a CCNA-level position, because of the lack of practical experience. Work yourself up from there. Remember, the 4-letter credential shouldn't be the be all and end all. You focus should be to learn as much as you can on your way towards it so as to apply it in the real world.
Cheers, and good luck.
Tinuva
The Magician
How much does these certs count for?
Well here is a very recent example:
http://itjobs.mybroadband.co.za/jobs/senior-network-engineer-5/
From what I can tell, they will give you an advantage, but what companies look for is experience. So what I can think is, get that start job if you can, do the grunt work while you study your ccna -> ccnp ect. By the time you done with CCNP you should have 1-2 years of experience configure plain layer2 switches and cabling and minor troubleshooting. It will give you a very good basis to start with. Then when you done with your CCNP, shoot for a higher position, even if its just intermediate, start on your CCIE while your at it and at some point before you know it, you worked for 3-5 years and have the certs and can easy shoot for a senior position.
This is of-coarse my opinion, your mileage may vary.
Well here is a very recent example:
http://itjobs.mybroadband.co.za/jobs/senior-network-engineer-5/
From what I can tell, they will give you an advantage, but what companies look for is experience. So what I can think is, get that start job if you can, do the grunt work while you study your ccna -> ccnp ect. By the time you done with CCNP you should have 1-2 years of experience configure plain layer2 switches and cabling and minor troubleshooting. It will give you a very good basis to start with. Then when you done with your CCNP, shoot for a higher position, even if its just intermediate, start on your CCIE while your at it and at some point before you know it, you worked for 3-5 years and have the certs and can easy shoot for a senior position.
This is of-coarse my opinion, your mileage may vary.
I agree I have taught quiet a few VMware techs and they didn't fully understand what was going and it's a fundamental component of a virtualization infrastructure
Why bother if you are getting a CCNA?