cisco router advice needed

naimanees

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Hi....

im studying my ccna currently and was advised to purchase a cisco 851w to practice on.

But i would like to know what is the differance between the 851w and the 837 and the 877 routers?

are there any major differances.
 

syntax

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dont bother, use Dynamips/GNS3
its a simulator that uses actual cisco IOS images..
 

gregmcc

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I wouldn't purchase it either. See if you can get your hands on RouterSim
 

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I would suggest to purchase a router even though today's sims run the actual IOS etc.

Its just when the time comes where you need to actually work on the physical device, its always good to have hands-on experience.

Though I would go for the 2600 series routers as a minimum.

Also regarding sims:
Dynamips/GNS3 are good.

If you need any of the programs pm me.
 
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naimanees

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Hi.

ive tried to download from Boson but unfortunately i cant get it to work properly.
If i but the proper version from them it basically costs more than the router.
I can get a 877 router at a brilliant price. About R1000.00
Can you guys suggest anywhere else where i could find a simulator?
 

syntax

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yeah, the simulator i mentioned earlier???
the boson simulator is quite cool, since it includes alot of different routers/switches and u can build ur own networks etc in a very easy interface...
try dynamips...u will like it
 

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dont bother, use Dynamips/GNS3
its a simulator that uses actual cisco IOS images..

I would second that. besides you have 1 router that can only do X amount.
what happens when you want to setup 2 routers to talk to each other?
buy 2 routers?
 

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I would second that. besides you have 1 router that can only do X amount.
what happens when you want to setup 2 routers to talk to each other?
buy 2 routers?

Its good to use both, like I said previously getting the hands-on experience is very important, something simulations cant give u.

I have emailed the OP earlier already the needed stuff to get his simulations up and running.
 

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Its good to use both, like I said previously getting the hands-on experience is very important, something simulations cant give u.

I have emailed the OP earlier already the needed stuff to get his simulations up and running.

True! Especially when you get to CCNP. Theres a BCRIM course as well. Quite good if you only just starting with Cisco.
 

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Its good to use both, like I said previously getting the hands-on experience is very important, something simulations cant give u.

+1

hands on experience can't be replaced.

the sim software will also let you setup a virtual network of routers/pc's and then you can ping/traceroute the network.

You will definitely need this knowledge for your CCNA. There's a couple of router network simulation questions which if you fail 2 or 3 of them then you fail.
 

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The 2600 is nice, but I prefer the 2800 series. I saw a 2500 the other day and almost browned myself. I guess we get used to upgrades :D
With regards to a sim vs the actual router, I find that the only difference, well obviously, is that you need to make sure that you are able to do and understand all the cabling and physical setup. Other than that a simulator (with more than one router in CCNP's case) is more than enough.
 

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Sims are good

:DI have Packet tracer version 12.*. I ts so good. Accepts most commands if not nearly all. mail me to arrange.
 

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The 2600 is nice, but I prefer the 2800 series. I saw a 2500 the other day and almost browned myself. I guess we get used to upgrades :D
With regards to a sim vs the actual router, I find that the only difference, well obviously, is that you need to make sure that you are able to do and understand all the cabling and physical setup. Other than that a simulator (with more than one router in CCNP's case) is more than enough.

Sure -- prefer the 2800 -- what do these sell for currently :confused:

I am on about my 12th Cisco device and enjoying every minute of the collecting. A 2501 has a certain nostalgia about it

Can a SIM show you how to check and change flash and dram , how to upload images by XMODEM. How to assemble Network Modules. What all the different cables are and how and where they get connected.
How to access and manipulate the file system etc etc :confused:

and I have not even spoken about switches.

Why does Wendell Odom ( the guy that puts the official CCNA Cisco Press books together) have a whole blog about setting up a Cisco Lab with real routers and switches :confused:


MW
 

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Sure -- prefer the 2800 -- what do these sell for currently :confused:

I am on about my 12th Cisco device and enjoying every minute of the collecting. A 2501 has a certain nostalgia about it

Can a SIM show you how to check and change flash and dram , how to upload images by XMODEM. How to assemble Network Modules. What all the different cables are and how and where they get connected.
How to access and manipulate the file system etc etc :confused:

and I have not even spoken about switches.

Why does Wendell Odom ( the guy that puts the official CCNA Cisco Press books together) have a whole blog about setting up a Cisco Lab with real routers and switches :confused:


MW
The 2800s went for around R10k the last I heard.... not too sure.
 

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Sure -- prefer the 2800 -- what do these sell for currently :confused:

I am on about my 12th Cisco device and enjoying every minute of the collecting. A 2501 has a certain nostalgia about it

Can a SIM show you how to check and change flash and dram , how to upload images by XMODEM. How to assemble Network Modules. What all the different cables are and how and where they get connected.
How to access and manipulate the file system etc etc :confused:

and I have not even spoken about switches.

Why does Wendell Odom ( the guy that puts the official CCNA Cisco Press books together) have a whole blog about setting up a Cisco Lab with real routers and switches :confused:


MW

Dude, we are talking about studying for the exam and using either a simulator or real life appliance to pass. Yes, obviously there is no substitute for the real thing, but to fork out a couple k for an appliance or use a FREE simulator its a no brainer....

I am very glad u can afford 12 cisco devices, most of us simply cant or dont want to waste the money on it.
 

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Dude, we are talking about studying for the exam and using either a simulator or real life appliance to pass. Yes, obviously there is no substitute for the real thing, but to fork out a couple k for an appliance or use a FREE simulator its a no brainer....

I am very glad u can afford 12 cisco devices, most of us simply cant or dont want to waste the money on it.

+1

The router software does a very good job for those that can't afford the equipment.
 

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soz this is off topic....

what would be the comparison between cisco and hp procurve?
has anyone worked with both? which is better?

I have signed up for procurve training ......
 

syntax

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soz this is off topic....

what would be the comparison between cisco and hp procurve?
has anyone worked with both? which is better?

I have signed up for procurve training ......

Never worked with procurve, so no clue. As for better who knows? Better really depends on which one can offer you the viable solution you need/want.
Would be interested to know how the training is though?
 

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Simulated Life

Dude, we are talking about studying for the exam and using either a simulator or real life appliance to pass. Yes, obviously there is no substitute for the real thing, but to fork out a couple k for an appliance or use a FREE simulator its a no brainer....
I am very glad u can afford 12 cisco devices, most of us simply cant or dont want to waste the money on it.

Dude -- can you run a real live network on a simulator ?????

Will a simulator explain to you how connect up to TELKOM ?

IS the money wasted when you can use the "practise" devices in a different setting ?????

( I cannot really afford it either -- but slowly slowly bit by bit blood sweat and tears )

Think BIG -- or go Home


the ENTREPRENEURIAL one
 
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