I am starting to come to the conclusion that you are bearphobic! Sies grant.
ockie sugarlips
i have been to bars & clubs all over the world, from the vanilla to the s&m / fetish places. (including a rubber club in amsterdam - wow, quite a sight)
(one of my favorites was "Trade" in london)
most of the time when faced by some leather mary wearing leather chaps and sporting facial hair, they are often more of a woman than my granny
ultimately - it's nothing more than drag, in another form
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there used to be a hotel in amsterdam called the Black Tulip.
from time out magazine:
Time Out says
Posted: Wed Sep 5 2012
Housed in a 16th-century building, this leather hotel mixes luxury with lust. Perfect for those who don't need much sleep; seven of the nine rooms come with TV, VCR and S&M facilities.
and:
The Black Tulip hotel combined the idea of sexual freedom with art and luxury. This was not a hotel which just offered rooms to stay the night, it offered an experience in an environment which would surpass your every fantasy. After the usual search for a good location (right next to Amsterdam’s Red Light district, but without the noise of tourists) and waiting for licences, hotel Black Tulip opened its doors in 1997. Mind you, those doors were not open to everyone, as the founders Eelco and Frank restricted access to male clientele only and specifically didn’t advertise in Amsterdam’s touristic listings. Seven rooms were now still leather rooms and 2 rooms (including the single) were now ‘straight-friendly’. Every Leather Room was different, but all had a sling over the bed. Other attributes included bondage chairs, an Andrew’s-cross and fetish videos on a flat-screen TV. The most expensive room was room #23, a true rubber Valhalla with rubber floor and bed cover.