Cloud storage/backup

[astrauss]

I'm currently subscribed to Bitcasa but the product has been broken since they changed platform.

Any suggestions for online backup with selective mirroring of folders, covers more than one PC, maybe have the files accessible from mobile devices and of course value for money?

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

Google Drive?

Box.com?

How much space do you need?

 

[Fulcrum29]

I'm currently subscribed to Bitcasa but the product has been broken since they changed platform.

Any suggestions for online backup with selective mirroring of folders, covers more than one PC, maybe have the files accessible from mobile devices and of course value for money?

Locally, CloudStor, http://liquidcloud.co.za/home/index.php/products/cloudstor, is doing well... Otherwise DrJohnZoidBerg's advice is sound, you can also check Microsoft OneDrive or Microsoft Azure Backup. There are ample options.

 

[shadow_man]

I'm currently subscribed to Bitcasa but the product has been broken since they changed platform.

Any suggestions for online backup with selective mirroring of folders, covers more than one PC, maybe have the files accessible from mobile devices and of course value for money?

Roll your own - http://owncloud.org

I'm really not sure why people want to keep giving unscrupulous corporates their data... Why why why?

When a cheap dedicated server costs only 5EU a month, with a 500GB disk - e.g. Kimsufui.com

 

[HavocXphere]

Cloud and backup are two very different things.

You can try to use a "cloud" solution as backup but when things go wrong...gawd help you. i.e. If you have local data corruption...your trusty cloud service syncs that corrupt sht to their server...now what? Now you have two copies of the corrupt data. Obviously I'm simplifying but you get my point...cloud is sync not backup.

If your data is important to you...treat cloud service and backup service as two distinctly separate things.

 

[shadow_man]

Cloud and backup are two very different things.

You can try to use a "cloud" solution as backup but when things go wrong...gawd help you. i.e. If you have local data corruption...your trusty cloud service syncs that corrupt sht to their server...now what? Now you have two copies of the corrupt data. Obviously I'm simplifying but you get my point.

If your data is important to you...treat cloud service and backup service as two distinctly separate things.

Agreed. Thats why its good to have revisioning + another daily / weekly / monthly system.

I personally love ZFS for its snapshotting and it's saved my bacon many times

 

[Fulcrum29]

Cloud and backup are two very different things.

You can try to use a "cloud" solution as backup but when things go wrong...gawd help you. i.e. If you have local data corruption...your trusty cloud service syncs that corrupt sht to their server...now what? Now you have two copies of the corrupt data. Obviously I'm simplifying but you get my point...cloud is sync not backup.

If your data is important to you...treat cloud service and backup service as two distinctly separate things.

That completely depends on the method, data repository models. Cloud, Hybrid and on-premises can be setup to do the appropriate backup method, this comes down to what the application support.

 

[HavocXphere]

That completely depends on the method, data repository models. Cloud, Hybrid and on-premises can be setup to do the appropriate backup method, this comes down to what the application support.

It does depend on model yes...pretty much all the cloud services that will catch the eye of the average reader will be as my post though.

I'm sure there are premium cloud providers that offer true Cloud+Backup...haven't seen any though.

Also: You seem to be speaking corporate side here ("on-premises")...I don't thing that is what OP is aiming at.

 

[Fulcrum29]

It does depend on model yes...pretty much all the cloud services that will catch the eye of the average reader will be as my post though.

I'm sure there are premium cloud providers that offer true Cloud+Backup...haven't seen any though.

Also: You seem to be speaking corporate side here ("on-premises")...I don't thing that is what OP is aiming at.

I never mentioned a on-premises solution in my initial post. OneDrive has version control which can rollback 25 versions, restore deleted data... same with Azure Backup (though much more in-depth) as well as Google Drive. Though when you recall and restore a revision it takes the top (syncs back as the latest). CloudStor the same.

Premium backup applications storing to the cloud (redundancy) includes CrashPlan, Symantec, Rackspace etc. this list can go on...

 

[AchmatK]

I'm running my OneDrive as a backup and sync.



My local OneDrive folder is the default save location for all files. Selected folders are then backed up using Cobian backup set to keep 10 revisions. This backup file is then saved the OneDrive folder and is also synced up on a daily basis. A copy of also saved on my local WD MyCloud 3TB drive.



Microsoft give 15GB free and also 1TB with Office365.



Folders can be shared with different users and accessible with all my devices.

 

[HavocXphere]

I never mentioned a on-premises solution in my initial post.

But you did mention it in the post I freakin quoted???

Regardless...its only borderline relevant to OP so lets not go wild on that side-track.

OneDrive has version control which can rollback 25 versions, restore deleted data... same with Azure Backup (though much more in-depth) as well as Google Drive. Though when you recall and restore a revision it takes the top (syncs back as the latest). CloudStor the same.

Indeed. Version control != backup though

Cloud with rollback will catch many things...but it is not a proper backup solution. If it were all the backup providers would have been out of business years ago.

 

[Fulcrum29]

But you did mention it in the post I freakin quoted???

That completely depends on the method, data repository models. Cloud, Hybrid and on-premises can be setup to do the appropriate backup method, this comes down to what the application support.

Yes, as well as I freakin included Hybrid (Hosted/Cloud and on-premises) and on-premises, plus mentioning application support.

Regardless...its only borderline relevant to OP so lets not go wild on that side-track.

No, you make that cloud backup cannot do revisions, even ownCloud as mentioned by jsheed_sa supports versioning and undelete.

Indeed. Version control != backup though

Cloud with rollback will catch many things...but it is not a proper backup solution. If it were all the backup providers would have been out of business years ago.

Great to see your opinion, you know, backup solution providers love to integrate with Amazon EC2, this includes NAKIVO, Symantec NetBackup and hundreds more, not a proper backup solution... Do you know the difference between cloud and hosted?

How many on-premises revisions do you do, what is your change cycle?

To be honest, hybrid is the way to go.

 

[HavocXphere]

No, you make that cloud backup cannot do revisions

:erm: No "I not make anything" as per your parlance. Dodgy grammar aside I was actually responding to the on-premises comment not whether any of the solutions discussed can/can't do revisions.

Without going into further detail - lets just agree to disagree here...

 

[Fulcrum29]

:erm: No "I not make anything" as per your parlance. Dodgy grammar aside I was actually responding to the on-premises comment not whether any of the solutions discussed can/can't do revisions.

Without going into further detail - lets just agree to disagree here...

Agree. I also apologise, this is what I do, and security (part of) as per specialisation so I may get worked up . No issue, but yeah this comment by you is considered as correct, something every backup user must look out for.

It does depend on model yes...pretty much all the cloud services that will catch the eye of the average reader will be as my post though.

This is rampant with major hosting providers providing (partnered with) cloud storage e.g. HostGator, GoDaddy etc.

So yah, let’s just agree to disagree here...

I will mention this, there is a new storage method dubbed Tribrid backup which stores to local (obviously), cloud and cold storage (basically archiving, not exactly), and also keeping revisions. There are only a few providers.

 

[HavocXphere]

Cool - lets consider the hatchet buried then.

I've also contributed what limited knowledge I have on this front so I'll make an exit at this stage...

 

[Fulcrum29]

Cool - lets consider the hatchet buried then.

I've also contributed what limited knowledge I have on this front so I'll make an exit at this stage...

Yep cool,

Normally when a question is asked such as the OP I need to consider SA regulations such as PoPI (still to be implemented) for example. Unfortunately, this leaves few options open. Rackspace is good, Acronis is good, lots of good options, no recommendations from my side. The only reason why I dropped CloudStor as a local option.

 

[HavocXphere]

Out of interest which cloud/backup/whatever is your current fav provider...ignoring said differences.

 

[astrauss]

Google Drive?

Box.com?

How much space do you need?

Right now: 1-2 TB, but needs change over time.

 

[CoatiMundi15]

I'm currently subscribed to Bitcasa but the product has been broken since they changed platform.

Any suggestions for online backup with selective mirroring of folders, covers more than one PC, maybe have the files accessible from mobile devices and of course value for money?

IDrive offers data mirroring and backup for an unlimited number devices including computers, phones and tablets. They don't charge extra per extra device, which has worked out great for me. I've used them for awhile and have remained a happy user.

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

Loaded up Windows 10 Preview on a VM on my Hetzner box. Gave me the opportunity to run a quick Speedtest