Cloudy screen on opening lid?

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dunkyd

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I have a new Macbook Pro. First week all was well but now I get a cloudy screen with a loading bar at the bottom each time I open in the mornings.
Not the same as mentioned on machelp. Not pure white as I can see my desktop picture thru the white cloud. No apple logo in the middle.
Cursor is stuck top left until I hit enter
Takes 10 to 15 seconds to clear.
Does not happen if on battery.
Damn annoying and istore help appears to be cut and paste from apple help for white screen WHEN STARTING , not as in my case when opening lid.
Any help out there?
One article suggested iCloud but when opening mail, contacts and calendars, icloud is not there, only my email name.
 
So you leave it on and just shut the lid ?

Might be sleep mode issue? Reword your search to something "slow recovery from sleep mode", if that is what you are doing.
 
Pics? Meaning have I a pic of the screen ?

Have always just closed the lid. Is that wrong ? Old Mac it works for the last 5 years, never switched off at the power button.

20130701_081711.jpg
 
For some reason, your MBP goes into hibernate mode instead of sleep mode when the lid is closed. See if you can't find the setting for sleep instead of hibernate when closing the lid.

The only other time the MBP normally does this is, after your battery has run flat, you plug in the power and boot up.
 
It does that by design (since Mountain lion)

With the release of the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.2 supplemental update 2.0, a new feature was introduced to enter safe sleep after four hours of the computer being connected to AC power. This is an effort to comply with the European Energy Standards (ErP Lot6). This will only occur if there is no wireless or Ethernet activity and no activity from external devices such as USB storage devices.
This is normal behavior for the following units:

MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012)
MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2012)
MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012 and later)
MacBook Pro (13-inch, Retina, Late 2012 and later)
MacBook Air (13-inch, Mid 2012)
MacBook Air (11-inch, Mid 2012)
iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2012)
iMac (27-inch, Late 2012)
Mac mini (Late 2012)
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Here's the detail on it and how to change it's behaviour:

http://www.michaelbraun.me/2013/01/fixing-macbook-pro-2012-deep-sleep-issue/

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1757?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/72889/mountain-lion-aggressively-hibernates
 
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@ Picture

Thats a real crappy camera....or its just not focused.
 
Thanks, did the reset over the phone from the iStore. Will check tomorrow morning.
 
Taken quickly without focus. Just to show translucency. Lord Litchfield would be horrified.....
 
The stores reset did not work. I will try the one in the article today.

Would this "feature" apply to all or just some laptops ? I'm hesitant to exchange all my data etc just to have the new one do the same....
 
dunkyd said:
The stores reset did not work. I will try the one in the article today.

Would this "feature" apply to all or just some laptops ? I'm hesitant to exchange all my data etc just to have the new one do the same....
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As stated. It is a feature to cater for EU energy regulations. So it isn't a defect. Any new MacBook product (my guess 2012 onwards) will do it with the supplement update installed. So either try the terminal changes or reinstall, but don't install the update.
 
Thanks creeper. Various articles also talk about " terminal change " but sadly way above my head.
 
dunkyd said:
Thanks creeper. Various articles also talk about " terminal change " but sadly way above my head.
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You should have said as much.

To check the current state of these settings (as mentioned in the articles):
1. Press the <CMD> key and the <SPACE BAR>; a spotlight field should appear in the top right corner.
2. Type 'terminal' in this field; your Top Hit should be the Terminal app, click on it with your mouse / touchpad; a new window should appear.
3. Select this window and type in lower case the following and then press the <ENTER> / <CARRIAGE RETURN> key:
pmset -g
4. This displays the current power management settings for your mac; if your mac has the issue mentioned in the articles, you should see a line with the following text:
autopoweroff 1

If that's the case you can follow the next steps to change its behavior:
5. In the terminal window type in lower case the following and then press the <ENTER> / <CARRIAGE RETURN> key:
sudo pmset -a autopoweroff 0
4. You will be prompted for your password, type your password and press the <ENTER> / <CARRIAGE RETURN> key.
5. Close this window and restart OSX problem should be resolved / back to the way it was before)
 
Yeah pretty normal.

And no closing the lid is perfectly fine. I got a 116 days of uptime before and only lost it due to installing updates.
 
Got right up to the password but could not get it to type ? Where should the cursor be to start ?
Did the pmset -g and sudo pmset -a autopoweroff ) next to the dark blocks but the password would not type there?
 
dunkyd said:
Got right up to the password but could not get it to type ? Where should the cursor be to start ?
Did the pmset -g and sudo pmset -a autopoweroff ) next to the dark blocks but the password would not type there?
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The dark block is the cursor (doesn't flash).

You'll typically see something like this; [] is the dark cursor:

Last login: Thu Jul 4 19:59:44 on ttys000
YourMacName:~ YourAccountName$ []pmset -g
Active Profiles:
Battery Power -1
AC Power -1*
Currently in use:
standbydelay 4200
standby 0
.
.
autopoweroff 1
autopoweroffdelay 14400
.
.
YourMacName:~ YourAccountName$ []sudo pmset -a autopoweroff 0
Password: <type your password here and press <enter>>

Note:
  • The password is the one you specified during the setup of your mac. It is also the same password that you enter when installing some apps, i.e. those requiring system level access.
  • This password is also your local account's login password.
  • The password is not your AppleID, iTunes or iCloud passwords.
  • When you type the password, it will appear as if nothing is being typed; yet it is working, so enter the full password and press <enter>.
  • The pmset -g command is used to check what the current power management settings are. It does not change anything.
  • The sudo pmset -a autopoweroff 0 command instructs OSX to switch off the autopoweroff feature i.e. do not switch to hibernate after 4 hours (autopoweroffdelay of 14400 seconds).
  • YourMacName = the name you specified during setup for your mac.
  • YourAccountName = the name you specified during setup for your login account.

Good luck!
 
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Seems the blank typing threw me.
Fiddled with various passwords and restarted and now it reads Autopoweroff 0 !!!!

Holding thumbs for the morning.

The Apple store have learnt a few things today too !

Will report back tomorrow.

Interesting to read that Apple mention that there is no hard and fast rule as to when or if Mid 2012 and onward laptops will start hibernating on their own without settings changes or software updates.... May be caused by combinations of power source/ battery usage over time ?

Another curveball for the likes of me.
 
dunkyd said:
Seems the blank typing threw me.
Fiddled with various passwords and restarted and now it reads Autopoweroff 0 !!!!

Holding thumbs for the morning.

The Apple store have learnt a few things today too !

Will report back tomorrow.

Interesting to read that Apple mention that there is no hard and fast rule as to when or if Mid 2012 and onward laptops will start hibernating on their own without settings changes or software updates.... May be caused by combinations of power source/ battery usage over time ?

Another curveball for the likes of me.
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Yip... But aside from future updates (10.8.5 is coming soon), also expect Mavericks to throw a few extra curve balls (hopefully this setting however finds it way to the system preferences area.

Btw once you update to a new version (e.g. 10.8.5). Just launch terminal and run pmset -g to see if the autopoweroff setting has change, if so, you know the command to fix it again.
 
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