Club 3D Radeon 5850.

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Inn3rs3lf

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Hi there guys. I am looking for an upgrade here. I have an i3 540, 4Gigs Ram, intel mobo, with only one 6 pin power connector, a gigabyte 550w power supply, radeon 5570, samsung 23.4inch LCD. Now I want to push this rig up for gaming, and I was looking at the 460's, but alas I dont have the power connectors, and I dont think its worth buying a new PSU and the card. I think my safest bet would be the 5850. Now, my budget is R3000. I cannot go over that whatsoever (just no cash) so do any of you know which card would be the best choice for that price? The Club 3d has an OC version thats in that price range, just wondering what your thoughts are.

Sweeeeeeeet
 
I've got the Club 3D 5850 OC Edition and do know that it does require two 6 pin power connectors unfortunately. Won't it be possible for you to get a converter or something for that extra 6 pin connector? The card rocks by the way. It's fast, cool and a lot quieter than the 5850 cards with the stock coolers.
 
Damn the man!!! Mmm, let me look around and see what I can find. Thanks for the heads up Solitude. Have not seen anything written about the two pin connectors in regards to the card.
 
http://www.prophecy.co.za/molex-pcie-adapter-cable-10cm-p-34049.html

Before you buy it do make sure about it first. I do not have much knowledge about the power side of things.

Oh and here's the bad news unfortunately:
http://www.club-3d.com/products/products_ending_page_7_with_id.cfm?product_id=250

If you look at the specifications tab then you'll see it requires 2 6-pin connectors. I hope that someone can verify that the adapter will work.

*edit* I mean the System Requirements tab. Man I need coffee. :)
 
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If your pc can run a 5850, then if surely can run a GTX460. I am not a fan of Club3D, for the simple fact that I had my card replaced 3 times and eventually bought a Sapphire.

BTW, you do get molex-2-6pin power cables with a new display card.

Go for the GTX460 1GB! :) I am thinking of selling my card and getting 2 of them. ;)
 
The 5850 kicks the GTX460 in the but!

I had the Zotac GTX460 1GB for exactly 2 days. Than went back to a 5870 and now a 5850, Ati is much better :)

Also the converter you are talking about has 2 molexs to 1 6 pin and comes with the card. your PSU will run it just fine :)
 
Sheesh SharkBait I didn't know that you had so much trouble with Club3D cards. If I knew that then I would have gotten a different card.

I agree with SharkBait though and I reckon that it will probably be better to get the GTX460 1GB. That's what you originally wanted and they perform really well. Plus the great news about the adapter. I didn't even realize that they come with the cards.
 
Blaze786 said:
The 5850 kicks the GTX460 in the but!

I had the Zotac GTX460 1GB for exactly 2 days. Than went back to a 5870 and now a 5850, Ati is much better :)

Also the converter you are talking about has 2 molexs to 1 6 pin and comes with the card. your PSU will run it just fine :)
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The GTX460 is cheaper and the OC versions run about the same as the 5850.

Solitude said:
Sheesh SharkBait I didn't know that you had so much trouble with Club3D cards. If I knew that then I would have gotten a different card.

I agree with SharkBait though and I reckon that it will probably be better to get the GTX460 1GB. That's what you originally wanted and they perform really well. Plus the great news about the adapter. I didn't even realize that they come with the cards.
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The problem was, it didn't work in my current setup, but it would work in someone else's pc. I ended up contacting Club3D and Asus about it and Club3D said it is the motherboard vice versa... You know how it is. So I replaced the one that wasn't working for me. :D
 
my club 3d 5770 is awsome dude and runs great.
 
How do the adaptors work? One molex to one 6pin? If so then the 460 it is. The gainward glh looks so so inviting. Just wondering......why would nag put the two 6pin connectors needed as a minus if all you have to do is use the adapter provided?
 
No, it's 2 molex per 6pin. They had to find some uses for molex connecters not that everyone is using sata. :D

I think it is a minus, cause the card doesn't really need 2 or Nvidia could have made the card so that it doesn't need 2. I don't really care and since the GTX460 and the 5850 both uses 2, I can't see how this is a deciding factor.

Link for the Gainward one?
 
It isn't really Nvidia's fault that the card needs 2 PCIE 6-pin power cables. The PCIE standards (closed standard) seem to artificially limit each PCIE connector to officially supplying 75W. Since you get 75W through the PCIE slot, and the GTX 460 needs around 160W, there is no way that Nvidia could have made the card use a single connector and still have enough power headroom without significantly impacting performance.

To put the power limit in perspective, each 4-pin molex (legacy technology) is capable of supplying about 60W max with 1 12v wire, and the safety guidlines for any single wire is 240VA max, i.e. 240W for DC current. An 8-pin PCIE connector supplies 150W, with the same number of 12v wires, i.e. 3. Yes, 5 out of the 8 pins are ground cables. Meaning that a 6-pin should also be able to supply something similar, unless there is something super-special about the 8-pin connector itself.

Also, be aware that not all manufacturers supply 2 molex-to-PCIE convertors with their cards, some only supply a single one, but that should be fine because almost all PSUs made these days have at least one PCIE connector.
 
Rudimental said:
It isn't really Nvidia's fault that the card needs 2 PCIE 6-pin power cables. The PCIE standards (closed standard) seem to artificially limit each PCIE connector to officially supplying 75W. Since you get 75W through the PCIE slot, and the GTX 460 needs around 160W, there is no way that Nvidia could have made the card use a single connector and still have enough power headroom without significantly impacting performance.

To put the power limit in perspective, each 4-pin molex (legacy technology) is capable of supplying about 60W max with 1 12v wire, and the safety guidlines for any single wire is 240VA max, i.e. 240W for DC current. An 8-pin PCIE connector supplies 150W, with the same number of 12v wires, i.e. 3. Yes, 5 out of the 8 pins are ground cables. Meaning that a 6-pin should also be able to supply something similar, unless there is something super-special about the 8-pin connector itself.

Also, be aware that not all manufacturers supply 2 molex-to-PCIE convertors with their cards, some only supply a single one, but that should be fine because almost all PSUs made these days have at least one PCIE connector.
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What we meant was, 2x(molex) cables into 1 6pin plug.

Anyone know which Gainward card they tested in the NAG? Can't find the info on google or www.nag.co.za
 
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