Clutch replacement quote bit much?

Steelwoolman said:
Ive been driving for just under 5 years, a Renault Megane 3 GT-Line and for a few months now started shuddering in 1st upon takeoff and occasionally in 2nd gear. It shudders about 75% of the time for about 1-2 seconds. On my last service, I told the mechanic who specialises in French cars to have a look and he says the clutch needs to be replaced from wear and tear. He gave me this quote. Some of these parts seem a bit much when compared to buying them individually. For example:

Rear Main Oil Seal - R220 https://africaboyzonline.com/renault-megane-3-1-4t-h4j-2009-rear-main-oil-seal
Driveshaft oil seals - R76 https://www.modernautoparts.co.za/products/9652

As for the other parts, I'm not even sure if I'm searching for the right thing because what do I know about cars? Anyway, I was hoping someone could give me yay, or nay on this workshop.

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Buy the Clutch kit they are around R3 000.

Take it to a workshop and let them fit it. It's not a complicated job, just needs specific tools else you could have done it yourself.
Clutch kit and labour should not put you back more than R 5k.

Why the fk they want to replace the flywheel? :D
 
Pitbull said:
Buy the Clutch kit they are around R3 000.

Take it to a workshop and let them fit it. It's not a complicated job, just needs specific tools else you could have done it yourself.
Clutch kit and labour should not put you back more than R 5k.

Why the fk they want to replace the flywheel? :D
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Ja... Whats the reason for replacing fly wheel?
 
mojoman said:
Ja... Whats the reason for replacing fly wheel?
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Actually reading up on it now, dual mass can't be machined. But I can't see why it would need to be replaced. Its like replacing a brake disc if your brake shoes went a bit beyond their life cycle and the discs are scratched. No need to replace them. Just put new shoes, will obviously not last as long but will work fine, or machine the discs. Dual mass seems to be different though.

Personally I would just replace the clutch. No way the flywheel could be that damaged that it needs replacement. Your clutch isn't even slipping it's shuddering
 
Pitbull said:
Actually reading up on it now, dual mass can't be machined. But I can't see why it would need to be replaced. Its like replacing a brake disc if your brake shoes went a bit beyond their life cycle and the discs are scratched. No need to replace them. Just put new shoes, will obviously not last as long but will work fine, or machine the discs. Dual mass seems to be different though.
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I remember my dad replacing a fly wheel on a old ford he had bought. The teeth for the starter were all knackered up.. But it was a car from the 80s with thousands of kms on it.
 
Well, I used to be a motor mechanic, and still had never heard of dual mass flywheels. One lives and learns. Perhaps they can't be skimmed / machined? They seem to have springs in them, and a quick google reveals they are normally replaced as a matter of course when doing a clutch job on a modern car as the springs can become loose and can cause clutch judder - and such is the OP's original reason for wanting the clutch done in the first place. Who knew? Not me.
 
mojoman said:
I remember my dad replacing a fly wheel on a old ford he had bought. The teeth for the starter were all knackered up.. But it was a car from the 80s with thousands of kms on it.
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Flywheels used to have separate ring gears - chip off, heat and shrink a new one on. I guess it's been a while since I've worked on cars. Switched to marine diesels back in the 80's and never looked back.
 
Pitbull said:
Actually reading up on it now, dual mass can't be machined. But I can't see why it would need to be replaced. Its like replacing a brake disc if your brake shoes went a bit beyond their life cycle and the discs are scratched. No need to replace them. Just put new shoes, will obviously not last as long but will work fine, or machine the discs. Dual mass seems to be different though.

Personally I would just replace the clutch. No way the flywheel could be that damaged that it needs replacement. Your clutch isn't even slipping it's shuddering
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That shuddering, is more than likely the DMF, they are unfortunately wear and tear items unlike older, conventional flywheels that could be used over and over.
 
Grouter said:
Well, I used to be a motor mechanic, and still had never heard of dual mass flywheels. One lives and learns. Perhaps they can't be skimmed / machined? They seem to have springs in them, and a quick google reveals they are normally replaced as a matter of course when doing a clutch job on a modern car as the springs can become loose and can cause clutch judder - and such is the OP's original reason for wanting the clutch done in the first place. Who knew? Not me.
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I learnt something new today. Thanks!
 
Grouter said:
Well, I used to be a motor mechanic, and still had never heard of dual mass flywheels. One lives and learns. Perhaps they can't be skimmed / machined? They seem to have springs in them, and a quick google reveals they are normally replaced as a matter of course when doing a clutch job on a modern car as the springs can become loose and can cause clutch judder - and such is the OP's original reason for wanting the clutch done in the first place. Who knew? Not me.
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Yes, DMF's essentially have two masses which are connected via a spring system, which takes up some of the 'shudder' when engaging/disengaging gears. These springs do wear out eventually so it has always been recommended to replace the DMF when a clutch change is done.
 
Grouter said:
Well, I used to be a motor mechanic, and still had never heard of dual mass flywheels. One lives and learns. Perhaps they can't be skimmed / machined? They seem to have springs in them, and a quick google reveals they are normally replaced as a matter of course when doing a clutch job on a modern car as the springs can become loose and can cause clutch judder - and such is the OP's original reason for wanting the clutch done in the first place. Who knew? Not me.
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some can be skimmed but because the clutch plate ,which is a solid plate ,sits mostly deep inside the flywheel ( not all )most machinists cant get into the flat surface to grind it .,and if they can the amount taken off the surface also has to be taken off the lip that the pressure plate bolts onto ,its not an easy job .some dmf can be stripped and repaired but most cant they are pressed and then balanced together .
 
Steelwoolman said:
Also, is there any benefit taking it to a workshop that specialises in French cars? What if I took it to a place like ACD?
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Generally French vehicles have some wicked quirks or special tools needed so best to go to a specialist but I would only take it to someone that has been recommended to you, there was one posted earlier that may be worth looking into.
 
A single clutch can replace a dual mass one.
Just exercise your left leg a bit.
Also as a forumite mentioned check the engine and gearbox mountings.
 
Reason why I have been putting it off for 6 years. Even with aftermarket prices it is still an expensive exercise. Not that much though.... But then again I don't have a French car.
 
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