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dal2000

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Hi, I need a CMS accommodation listing site which has to be very dynamic. Ive been quoted some really high amounts online, my last quote being 9k :erm:

Would anyone know of a company that develops sites at a fairly reasonable amount?
Maximum amount I am looking to inject would be about 5k.

Anyone here on this forum perhaps?

Thanks
 

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You're looking at between 1.5k-3.5k for the design alone. Then a programmer to do all the dynamic bits you require in the back-end? I'd say 9k is a very cheap quote...
 

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hey Dal2000, what is your budget, and what exactly do you want?

Do you have a domain for the website already?
 

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I'm still looking at my options. My budget is no more than 5k (if this is possible judging by the nature of the site I require). At this point I have nothing for it.
Any suggestions are welcome as I'm new to CMS pricing.
 

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I'm still looking at my options. My budget is no more than 5k (if this is possible judging by the nature of the site I require). At this point I have nothing for it.
Any suggestions are welcome as I'm new to CMS pricing.

You see, if it was a straight forward CMS, it could have been done for under 5k including design, but you require "accommodation listing site which has to be very dynamic". This requires *custom* code to be written and AFAIK you can't find a "slap on a design and you're ready to go" CMS with your specific requirements.

Like I said, 9k is a very cheap quote, and anyone that will do it for your cheaper would probably half-ass the job and not give you what you want in the end. To give you an idea, I charge between R35k-125k per site, depending on what the client wants of course. But usually it's an e-commerce site or a site that requires a CMS custom tailored to fit their needs.

Which brings us back to point A. If your requirement was simply to have a CMS on your site, R5k would be more than enough to have it done and implemented. However, custom coding of any nature to tailor it to your specific dynamic needs, takes time. Time = Money
 

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AcidRazor, this can be done @ the price the OP has asked. He obviously wont' get all the bells and whistles you can give him @ R125K, but he could start somewhere with his current budget and move forward from thereon.

I have done websites like this before and can do it for R5k. At this price it won't include everything you may have in mind, but it will have the more important options like the accommodation listing.
 
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Acidrazor, don't pump out the BS. Your website pretty much shows you're a pretending wannabe. Don't trust this guy, he might just rip 125k out your pocket. Plz dear god...
 

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@ cybersect - And what website is he showing?

I design sites myself, and anything that needs custom codes is going to be nowhere near 5k. Obviously it depends on the time involvement, but from your description it sounds as though it needs to be quite in depth, and most designers wouldn't spend more than 10 hours on it for R5k.
 

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@5K - you get what you pay for. It pisses me off that people think developing sites is 'simple' and should not cost a lot. I can understand that as single man business etc you may need to reduce your price to get clients but do not think because you need do it at 5k others should do it well.

I'm with Acid on this one.
 

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Installing a CMS like Joomla or dotnetNuke isn't hard at all and doesn't take very long, it's programming those custom modules or plugins you want so that you can operate as an Accommodation listing site.

Although I have seen some people be considerably ripped-off, for you it is not the case, a custom built CMS for that price is not unreasonable, this said, I think you should search for some plugins that were already created for this purpose and learn to work with them, it should be a far cheaper solution.
 

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but does the OP want a 120K website? Just cause I can't afford a Ferrari, Porsche or Lamborghini @ R1mil, doesn't mean that my R100K Toyota, Mazda, Ford, VW, Beem, etc doesn't do the job either. Sure, it doesn't have a topspeed of 340+km's and it won't perform like your Ferrari does on the Authobhan, but it's still a car nonetheless.

You're right, you get what you pay for, but you're discriminating the client since he doesn't have the money you're prepared to take, and he may not necessarily want the 120K website you have to offer either.
 

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but does the OP want a 120K website? Just cause I can't afford a Ferrari, Porsche or Lamborghini @ R1mil, doesn't mean that my R100K Toyota, Mazda, Ford, VW, Beem, etc doesn't do the job either. Sure, it doesn't have a topspeed of 340+km's and it won't perform like your Ferrari does on the Authobhan, but it's still a car nonetheless.

You're right, you get what you pay for, but you're discriminating the client since he doesn't have the money you're prepared to take, and he may not necessarily want the 120K website you have to offer either.

That is why some of us here are giving the low-down, why pay so much money for a very custom Tailored solution when you can use already available software, no sense re-inventing the wheel.
 

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Hi, I need a CMS accommodation listing site which has to be very dynamic. Ive been quoted some really high amounts online, my last quote being 9k :erm:

Would anyone know of a company that develops sites at a fairly reasonable amount?
Maximum amount I am looking to inject would be about 5k.

Anyone here on this forum perhaps?

Thanks
9k is not that high - but I wouldn't even guess at a price based on your post. Can you clarify "very dynamic", for example? Do you have any requirements (Linux/Windows host, for example)? Do you have a design in mind, or are you open to a standardised template?
 

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ok, seems I have caused alot of confusion. Sorry about that.
What I need is simple a website that will list accommodation for people who wish to have their accommodation listed. So essentially they will find my site called (example) www.accommodationSA -. They will see a page/link that says "get listed". They click on that which brings up a new page and form which will have them fill in their accommodation description and include a few images. It will cost them a certain amount to get listed, very minimal. Once listed, they can go log onto the site and add any specials or edit any text and photos they wish to. This is what I'm looking for. Ofcourse it must "look" dynamic, but not necessarily "BE" all that dynamic. As long as it looks professional enough and not like some HTML experiment :)

A template would be fine even, as long as it looks decent enough as it related to what my site is about.

This is a perfect example! http://www.travel-and-stay.co.za
 
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Acidrazor, don't pump out the BS. Your website pretty much shows you're a pretending wannabe. Don't trust this guy, he might just rip 125k out your pocket. Plz dear god...

I don't spend any effort or time on my own sites at all... if I'm pretending or a wanna-be, why then do people contact me for their needs based solely off of word-of-mouth?
 

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but does the OP want a 120K website? Just cause I can't afford a Ferrari, Porsche or Lamborghini @ R1mil, doesn't mean that my R100K Toyota, Mazda, Ford, VW, Beem, etc doesn't do the job either. Sure, it doesn't have a topspeed of 340+km's and it won't perform like your Ferrari does on the Authobhan, but it's still a car nonetheless.

You're right, you get what you pay for, but you're discriminating the client since he doesn't have the money you're prepared to take, and he may not necessarily want the 120K website you have to offer either.

Depends on what the client's aim is with the site, the number quoted depends solely on the amount of time spent programming. I quote per hour, not per project. This keeps me safe when (note, WHEN) the project goes out of scope...
 

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ok, seems I have caused alot of confusion. Sorry about that.
What I need is simple a website that will list accommodation for people who wish to have their accommodation listed. So essentially they will find my site called (example) www.accommodationSA -. They will see a page/link that says "get listed". They click on that which brings up a new page and form which will have them fill in their accommodation description and include a few images. It will cost them a certain amount to get listed, very minimal. Once listed, they can go log onto the site and add any specials or edit any text and photos they wish to. This is what I'm looking for. Ofcourse it must "look" dynamic, but not necessarily "BE" all that dynamic. As long as it looks professional enough and not like some HTML experiment :)

A template would be fine even, as long as it looks decent enough as it related to what my site is about.

This is a perfect example! http://www.travel-and-stay.co.za

You have to keep in mind (and other people who commented on this thread as well, especially the dumbass who's name I won't name right now, but you know who you are ;) ) that you expect to make money off of this. Now usually what I tell my clients who want to start websites that generates them a set income each month looking for a solution: Sure, you can do the template/plugin CMS thing, but when you expand it's going to cost more than what it'd cost you now for something like this. Best to tailor make it for your requirement, which initially does cost a bit of money, but once it's there you can do whatever with it, expand it without any kind of obstacle some schlep has to program around or anything. So what is it worth to you.

What is your projected ROI on this?
What is your marketing strategy?
How many people are interested in a site like this?

etc

(Those are some example questions I ask all my clients before they even start out)

Now I could be the typical "show me the moneyz and I'll give yooz a website for da intarwebz and you make billions!!!" type dude, who would probably shaft you and the project costs you more than you anticipate for, but I'm not. I don't accept work if the client didn't think it through. Everyone here are well aware of guys with ideas needing some programmer to do something for them for free with a promise in profit share... why? because we all fell into that trap once or twice while we were still very green.

For example, quickdubai.com (for the douche who wanted an example) opted to buy off the shelf software I had to customize, rather than pay me for a tailor made/custom e-commerce site. They're officially 2 years old in the next few weeks, and I'm *still* customizing stuff for them, having to work around or hack the code to make what they want WORK. I'm more than happy to keep taking their money, but I warned them before they made the decision that off the shelf software will cost them more in the long run than spending 2-3 months developing code custom to their needs suitable to expand and grow as the business does.

I don't just do "code". I help the business understand their needs and factor in future growth and avenues of expansion and potential before writing even a single piece of code. And that's mostly why I have repeat business from word-of-mouth advertisement, because "I know my ****"

My prediction is, as with everyone elses, you'll get what you pay for. You'll find someone willing to do the job for that price, but won't be able to deliver what you want exactly (which is to be expected). That, or you'll have to customize so much of what they give you (because its a Joomla CMS and a plugin) that they'll have to resort to either charging you for the time they spend on the project (which is more than the initial cost) or tell you that they won't be working on the project anymore because it went out of scope of the original specifications/ideas conveyed.

I'm not a nay-sayer, there might be some very bright individuals out there that can give you what you want for the price that you want without you having to lube-it-up and take it like a wo-man... but those are rare
 
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