Coffin assault trial

theratman said:
Verified it myself with that screen shot, it's unfortunately very real. If that was from the ANC or EFF people would be losing their sh*t but because it's not they aren't making such a fuss. Really irresponsible post from Maimane.
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Waiting for him to Apologize and realize how stupid it was or I won't vote for him/DA again.
 
Wow, white people gets tortured, slaughtered, raped by blacks in this country on a daily basis, no-one bats an eyelid. Some white guys scare the crap out of a black guy, and it makes international news, WTF???
 
SkippyRamirez said:
Wow, white people gets tortured, slaughtered, raped by blacks in this country on a daily basis, no-one bats an eyelid. Some white guys scare the crap out of a black guy, and it makes international news, WTF???
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I'm looking at but one incident here, in 2014 petrol was forced down Ponty Thuynsma throat and he was burned with an iron on the ears, face, arm and feet. The article appears in the Rekord East and a cursory search does not give results for any of the major Afrikaans or English online papers covering the story. The attackers broke his dog's back and it had to be put to sleep later.
 
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etienne_marais said:
I'm looking at but one incident here, in 2014 petrol was forced down Ponty Thuynsma throat and he was burned with an iron on the ears, face, arm and feet. The article appears in the Rekord East and a cursory search does not give results for any of the major Afrikaans or English online papers covering the story. The attackers broke his dog's back and it had to be put to sleep later.
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More recent... Pierre de Necker, Frik and Kathy van Coppenhagen...
 
Poignant and thought provoking reply from Steven van Staden on this matter at: http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politics/kathrada-foundation-calls-for-toughest-possible-pe


... "22 years into democracy and two white individuals think that it is okay to treat a black individual in the most inhumane way." This is a racist statement. The same applies to your statement about the possibility of Trump's victory emboldening white racists.

Where is your condemnation and speculation on Malema emboldening black racists? Where are your statements deploring the most violent and depraved crimes committed by black housebreakers on not only whites but Indians and, for that matter, the most heinous crimes committed by blacks on blacks? I deplore this coffin incident in the strongest terms, but I resent the suggestion that this brutish act is any worse than the far more numerous crimes committed by blacks.

That this incident was not "swept under the carpet" like the everyday black on white crimes committed against families in their homes only underlines the double standards applying in SA. If anything is exacerbating the racist mindsets of whites in SA it would be these crimes by blacks on whites. Yet there is no such increase in violent white on black crimes which are minimal.

The massive publicity given to white on black racism is itself a distortion of reality because it denies equal prominence to black on white crime. It also foments black on white racism. White people with this diseased racist propensity certainly don't need the odious Trump to inspire them. What is fomenting racial violence is the crime I have mentioned and the interminable stoking of black leaders who never tire of portraying whites as more racist than blacks or Indians. It is a deceit and I consider it a racist insult.

I can't believe that your motives here are what you proclaim."
 
This actually sums up what I felt when I saw the post. Not the different attacks on different races and the likes.

What these guys did was despicable and they need to be punished and punished hard. Unless they specifically made racist remarks indicating its a racist or hate crime. It's nothing but I would assume taking someone hostage and assault. The clip I saw had no audio so I can't confirm or deny it being of racial grounds. But they took a trespasser and humiliated him, assaulted him and held him against his will.

If it was a white man they did it, would the penalty be the same?

See this is the issue our legal system has to deal with. Way too politically correct instead of looking at the facts at hand. And then the rent a crowed making it a racial issue and dividing the country further. These people should actually be brought to book as well.
 
Because of the racist grandstanding and opportunism by the EFF and ANC whites have to behave much better than what blacks do.

When whites misbehave the consequences are far more serious than when blacks misbehave.

This in itself is racist, but it is simply the way that it is.
 
theratman said:
Agreed

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DA should fire him for this. Utterly irresponsible, I did not expect this from him.
 
etienne_marais said:
I'm looking at but one incident here, in 2014 petrol was forced down Ponty Thuynsma throat and he was burned with an iron on the ears, face, arm and feet. The article appears in the Rekord East and a cursory search does not give results for any of the major Afrikaans or English online papers covering the story. The attackers broke his dog's back and it had to be put to sleep later.
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This is how the SA media treat things. White racist gets many clicks, black murderer rapist nothing.
 
skeptic_SA said:
Poignant and thought provoking reply from Steven van Staden on this matter at: http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politics/kathrada-foundation-calls-for-toughest-possible-pe


... "22 years into democracy and two white individuals think that it is okay to treat a black individual in the most inhumane way." This is a racist statement. The same applies to your statement about the possibility of Trump's victory emboldening white racists.

Where is your condemnation and speculation on Malema emboldening black racists? Where are your statements deploring the most violent and depraved crimes committed by black housebreakers on not only whites but Indians and, for that matter, the most heinous crimes committed by blacks on blacks? I deplore this coffin incident in the strongest terms, but I resent the suggestion that this brutish act is any worse than the far more numerous crimes committed by blacks.

That this incident was not "swept under the carpet" like the everyday black on white crimes committed against families in their homes only underlines the double standards applying in SA. If anything is exacerbating the racist mindsets of whites in SA it would be these crimes by blacks on whites. Yet there is no such increase in violent white on black crimes which are minimal.

The massive publicity given to white on black racism is itself a distortion of reality because it denies equal prominence to black on white crime. It also foments black on white racism. White people with this diseased racist propensity certainly don't need the odious Trump to inspire them. What is fomenting racial violence is the crime I have mentioned and the interminable stoking of black leaders who never tire of portraying whites as more racist than blacks or Indians. It is a deceit and I consider it a racist insult.

I can't believe that your motives here are what you proclaim."
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I see the persecution complex is taking hold, if only as a means to deflate attention from racism. The truth of the matter is that Black people are in solidarity with the farming community when one of theirs is attacked, for example. You will never see a black person say "oh, what about what x white person did to black person y". Why, because at that point it is irrelevant to the matter at hand.
 
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