Comair licence suspended over maintenance concerns

ForceFate said:
I was under the impression that their own report recommended that CAA appoint an independent body to investigate the accident further.
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Not aware of that, but likely that CAA will take it under review.
 
ForceFate said:
I was under the impression that their own report recommended that CAA appoint an independent body to investigate the accident further.
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I think Ethiopian authorities did the investigation and report; SACAA trying to get them to change some of it.
 
And kulula still selling tickets on their website... The money grab continues... Sell tickets, don't fly, offer customers travel credit for the not so foreseeable future....
 
airborne said:
Out of interest what about the people who run the airport's themselves the control towers and and equipment to ensure flights take off and land safely, who runs that in South Africa and how well run are they?
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They are hired by the CAA as far as I know and they are paid quite handsomely... The fact that you hardly ever heard any negative reportage about them means they are doing quite a satisfactory job.
 
wireddreams said:
They are hired by the CAA as far as I know and they are paid quite handsomely... The fact that you hardly ever heard any negative reportage about them means they are doing quite a satisfactory job.
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Are ATC not employed by ATNS?
 
airborne said:
Out of interest what about the people who run the airport's themselves the control towers and and equipment to ensure flights take off and land safely, who runs that in South Africa and how well run are they?
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Since this is about Comair, one of the findings from Kulula's loss of separation incident in February:

The reduced separation which resulted in RA was caused by ATC clearing ZS-ZWF for right visual approach RWY 07 before instructing ZS-ASN to break off final approach and reposition to left downwind. This resulted in a much faster aircraft (ZS-ZWF) being behind a slower aircraft (ZS-ASN), as well as being 500 feet apart.
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Don't SAA Technical run the maintenance at all SA airports?
 
ForceFate said:
Some airlines handle their own maintenance
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Bad news for BA, usually they're a very good airline, at the end of the day, if they close their doors it only disadvantages the SA consumer again
 
And magically all of a sudden, the paperwork is sorted, and the suspension is lifted:
www.news24.com

Comair suspension lifted, kulula.com and BA flights can resume | Business

British Airways (operated by Comair) and kulula.com flights will start operating again on Thursday morning, 17 March, following the South African Civil Aviation Authority reinstating the company's Air Operators’ Certificate.
www.news24.com www.news24.com
 
Gordon_R said:
And magically all of a sudden, the paperwork is sorted, and the suspension is lifted:
www.news24.com

Comair suspension lifted, kulula.com and BA flights can resume | Business

British Airways (operated by Comair) and kulula.com flights will start operating again on Thursday morning, 17 March, following the South African Civil Aviation Authority reinstating the company's Air Operators’ Certificate.
www.news24.com www.news24.com
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I'd like to understand what you were expecting? If they were not in compliance and then completed handing in the proof of compliance, do you expect the suspension to be lifted slowly? Maybe lift a percentage of the suspension every day until they are 100% unsuspended?

It's a binary situation in my understanding. Not meeting compliance = suspension. Once proof of compliance is verified -> unsuspended.
 
sjm said:
I'd like to understand what you were expecting? If they were not in compliance and then completed handing in the proof of compliance, do you expect the suspension to be lifted slowly? Maybe lift a percentage of the suspension every day until they are 100% unsuspended?

It's a binary situation in my understanding. Not meeting compliance = suspension. Once proof of compliance is verified -> unsuspended.
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If you read my previous post, IMO this whole process was subjective. There was no evidence of safety violations, other than random engine failures, and some incomplete paperwork. Abruptly shutting down an airline for this seems grossly disproportionate.
 
Can British Airways(SA) in theory move over to FlySafAir?

I mean the "brand" is just being licensed to Comair.

I feel like it will be a better fit for British Airways.

Safair does it's own maintenance and has grown its brand in SA.
 
Oh and Discovery should drop their partnership with Comair and move over to FlySafair.

At this rate only Vitality members are flying Kulula.

It has become the Virgin Active of air travel.
 
Gordon_R said:
If you read my previous post, IMO this whole process was subjective. There was no evidence of safety violations, other than random engine failures, and some incomplete paperwork. Abruptly shutting down an airline for this seems grossly disproportionate.
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You are aware of the papertrail that the airlines have to follow to maintain their licenses ?
There was another article that they changed maintenance vendors.
Reading between the lines that after those violations the paperwork was found to be wanting, so therefor they got shutdown.
With all the crap happening at SAA Technical I am not surprised. SAA Technical lost a lot of the senior guys that held multiple certfication's for various airframes.
 
Gary Waterworth said:
You are aware of the papertrail that the airlines have to follow to maintain their licenses ?
There was another article that they changed maintenance vendors.
Reading between the lines that after those violations the paperwork was found to be wanting, so therefor they got shutdown.
With all the crap happening at SAA Technical I am not surprised. SAA Technical lost a lot of the senior guys that held multiple certfication's for various airframes.
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My point was not about the requirements, but that they were imposed at short notice, and on a weekend. That seems arbitrary and vindictive (that's all I'm trying to say). The news release only gives us a fraction of the real picture, and my gut-reaction is to mistrust many parastatals (including the SACAA as discussed earlier in the thread).
 
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