Comet ISON to be visible late 2013

Why are everyone, even the scientists lie when the end of it all are so near? :whistle:

Only a few meagre weeks to go till the end! :whistle:

http://truthdive.com/2013/10/08/comet-ison-may-be-dying-2.html

Oct 8 (TruthDive): Supposed to be the “comet of the century” and predicted to be one of the brightest comets of the century, Comet ISON may wind up disappointing sky watchers as new data suggests it could be disintegrating.

Comet ISON made its closest approach to Mars this week and scientists in charge of the sharp-eyed camera aboard NASA’s Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter say the long-awaited comet did not live up to expectations.

Astronomer Ignacio Ferrin from FACom, Universidad de Antioquia, evaluated the latest observational data of Comet ISON and has found the clear signs of what he has called an “imminent demise” of the comet.

Ferrin is using “secular light curves” to feature the brightness history of a comet. On comparing the light curves of ISON with eight other comets that disintegrated, Ferrin believes ISON will soon “dissolve” out. He said in a statement, “The light curve of the comet showed a slowdown event characterized by a constant brightness with no sign of a brightness increase tendency.”

Ferrin said the slowdown of ISON began on Jan. 13, 2013, and sustained through the last observations made in September. For nine months or more than 270 days, the brightness of ISON has remained constant, a behaviour without any example in cometary Astronomy and that is a troubling sign for the survival of the comet, he said.

The HiRISE camera on NASA’s Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter recorded a series of images of Comet ISON. The HiRISE camera took some time off its usual targets of imaging the craters, dunes and rust-coloured landforms of Mars, instead pointed toward space as ISON passed 8 million miles away from the red planet.

HiRISE scientists Alan Delamere and Alfred McEwen wrote on the instrument’s website, based on preliminary analysis of the data that the comet appears to be at the low end of the range of brightness predictions for the observation. As a result, the image is not visually pleasing but low coma activity is best for constraining the size of the nucleus.

The best viewing of the Comet from the Earth will be in late November and early December. ISON will reach its closest point to Earth on Dec. 26 at a range of 40 million miles, six times farther than its flyby of Mars this week, according to the European Space Agency.
Click to expand...
 
Ok i will get flamed for this but here goes:

The best viewing of the Comet from the Earth will be in late November and early December. ISON will reach its closest point to Earth on Dec. 26 at a range of 40 million miles, six times farther than its flyby of Mars this week, according to the European Space Agency.
Click to expand...

Ok i first noticed this pattern when that chick that runs the all eyes on ison said when comet ison completes it's pass around the sun...

Yes i realize that is something someone irrational who needs help would find odd(i don't dispute it seems a little irrational to focus on the way they choose to word as if ison will make it) and it may just be a statement assuming ison will make it, that part perhaps was not taken from the original statement when the article was written. The assumption should be it won't make it considering the heat it will be subjected to but somehow they have exact timelines, i guess we will find shortly if ison makes the trip relatively intact, i have doubt ison can survive. However you guys should also be wondering how or why they are making statements about ison like they are without knowing certain factors and why exact timelines are given considering what we all know about comets.

Unless they can see into the future i can't grasp(go for it boys) how they can give such precise dates and you can call me irrational for many things but wondering how they are coming up with such precise dates should be something even rational people should be questioning. You guys all know how these comets react so you should understand why i am confused as to the time lines given and distances. It strikes me as odd that they know the time line and seem to be telling us ison will make it(well that ferrin guy isn't but he does not work for nasa so his comments pointless and a lie), irrational i guess but if you think wondering why or questioning such precise dates is irrational please explain to me why it is irrational?

Do you guys know how they can pin point an exact date and exact distance? Ok so that is not a conspiracy question, it is using the nasa model and listening to nasa talk about comets. So explain to me based on nasa and everything they know as the truth why an exact time line can given should ison survive. Although i am assuming you guys know what happens regarding the frost line and what will happen when it goes around the sun.

If you need me to explain i am happy to do so but being irrational i think perhaps let someone who knows without googling what ison should be doing and why it seems odd to give exact dates and distances without mentioning ison may not even make november let alone the exact date they mention.
 
Last edited:
So the way i see it, ison is either exactly what many are saying, a dud or it isn't what nasa say it is and it isn't brightening because it is not as dirty snowball and the brightness will come in late november, early december as the EPA states. I am not saying anything about electric this or that so don't climb into me for suggesting it is because i have not said it is electric.

Time will tell but for now we are left with dodgy websites(not nasa so dodgy and youtube again not nasa so dodgy) amatuer people who say this or that are automatically dodgy as well. So when the debt ceiling is postponed for 6 weeks and the government stays shut down, the shock is going to be off the chart if this is all one big conspiracy :D.

For all we know, ison is some stupid small comet and it is nothing more than a distraction but without nasa there is nothing we can believe. Nasa have not backed up the European space folk, nor have they backed up that ferrin guy. Irrational to do so.
 
Last edited:
What in the actual fsck... have you been drinking tonight? Toilet cleaner?
 
DJ... said:
What in the actual fsck... have you been drinking tonight? Toilet cleaner?
Click to expand...

DJ you are one oke i will avoid going toe to toe with aggressively purely because i actually have respect for you and i know you would not say that without something striking you(being irrational could not have struck you as toilet cleaner posting regarding the wording issue as i made it clear i could be irrational focusing on the wording, so i said it and admitted i could just be irrational on the wording issue) as toilet cleaner. Porch is noob compared to you in terms of going toe to toe with. So i know in the past i have argued ignorantly and been stubborn. This though is not ignorance(irrational on the wording issue no doubt as i mentioned in my post) i am not being stubborn, so explain to me what struck you as toilet cleaner posting?

Apart from me admitting i may be irrational thinking when they say will or when as opposed to if means something other than they assume it will make the the trip i don't see toilet cleaner anywhere. Now that isn't toilet cleaner posting if i clearly state that may i be irrational on that issue. So if that is why you said i am on toilet cleaner you are fully justified but i did say it could be irrational so to me you can clearly see i realize it. So your reaction could not have come from my admission because why would you think i am on toilet cleaner if i can actually see irrational thought process.

Now i am fine with your comment as i also think i may be on toilet cleaner when i think like that :D. So you are not alone thinking i am on toilet cleaner regarding the way they word it issue :p.

What i want to know apart from my admission that i could be irrational regarding the wording is there anything else that i said that made you think toilet cleaner post? I will go on to ask a couple more questions after you answer what the toilet cleaner part of my post is. Obviously you can't say the wording issue as i admitted it could very well be my irrational thought process.

Now porch was mocking me because he thought i thought the brightest comet of the century did not mean what it does. He thought or was hoping i believed it was the last 100 years, sadly for him he never knew about the brightest comet of the century.

Anyways i am here until 3ish, not in a very aggressive or agitated mood so let loose bro and explain where the toilet cleaner part is. I really hope you didn't post based on the wording issue where i admitted it could my irrational thinking :(.
 
Last edited:
Better call 911, someone for sure needs serious help!
 
Seriously, let us take a look at your article and the comments made by ferrin

Ferrin is using “secular light curves” to feature the brightness history of a comet. On comparing the light curves of ISON with eight other comets that disintegrated, Ferrin believes ISON will soon “dissolve” out. He said in a statement, “The light curve of the comet showed a slowdown event characterized by a constant brightness with no sign of a brightness increase tendency.”
Click to expand...

Alright fair enough, one person can notice something like this while nobody else has a clue. A bit conspiracy don't you think? So the light curve, ok i will need to research that later on, i know there is something that was spectacular that kinda sounded the same but i will check it out later, i must try sleep so i will check it out later. He could very possibility be correct so i don't see anything wrong with that do you? can't say the guy is talking crap because he is the only one who knows about it. So yea let's believe him because one man believing something means it's a fact right? Cool if you think so each to their own but let's look at something before i duck.

Ferrin said the slowdown of ISON began on Jan. 13, 2013, and sustained through the last observations made in September. For nine months or more than 270 days, the brightness of ISON has remained constant, a behaviour without any example in cometary Astronomy and that is a troubling sign for the survival of the comet, he said.
Click to expand...

Look i am tired so just read that dude. I will get into later. Thus far one man knows ison will fail based on some light curve only he knows about. Seriously you can add more onto what i have summed up regarding the first quote. Sum up the second quote for me please. I would like to see what your take on the second quote is. Sum it up and explain what the quote is basically saying to us.

Sleep time, can't wait to see what your thoughts are on that second quote. it is a 5 o clock and i haven't slept but i have an idea but let's see the rational people sum up the second quote, then i will sum it up and let's see how the different views work out.
 
ShaunSA said:
killa lay off the meds and get some sleep dude :wtf:
Click to expand...

Whatever dude, i am leaving this thread for now, i will let you okes talk about it

Such a glaring and interesting fact that seriously posted and it seems to have gone unnoticed. Incredible in all honesty.

So it's chilled bro i will wait and wait see rather than try show you okes ison is not normal or it is the biggest hoax in our history.
 
Last edited:
I'm sorry, but can someone please explain to me what the hell killadoob is going on about?

All I can see in those articles is that one scientest believes the comet is disintegrating, which unfortunately means it won't be as bright as it could have been if it wasn't falling apart.
 
Pox said:
I'm sorry, but can someone please explain to me what the hell killadoob is going on about?

All I can see in those articles is that one scientest believes the comet is disintegrating, which unfortunately means it won't be as bright as it could have been if it wasn't falling apart.
Click to expand...

Something about ison, electricity, monsoons and the end of the world. Basically he is going on about a load of horse manure.
 
killadoob said:
Whatever dude, i am leaving this thread for now, i will let you okes talk about it

Such a glaring and interesting fact that seriously posted and it seems to have gone unnoticed. Incredible in all honesty.

So it's chilled bro i will wait and wait see rather than try show you okes ison is not normal or it is the biggest hoax in our history.
Click to expand...

I was being sarcastic bro. I seriously need to give you advice and that is to get professional help. Your antics in this and the anti US threads are a cause for great concern about your rationality. This thread and how your responses became more and more incoherent tells me there are something seriously wrong with you mental state of mind which needs urgent attention by an expert!

Take a break from this forum and the news in general. You are seriously losing it bro!

Do not see this as an attack please. I am sorry I mocked you and as such somehow contributed to this state of affairs BUT please get some help!
 
Last edited:
I feel the need to explain a bit. I am not a scientist but it's a subject that I've loved since childhood.

The date in the article gets calculated by Kepler's laws. Of course Kepler was improved on by Newton and later by Einstein, but those improvements were in degrees of prescision rather than throwing the old laws out. That's how science works.

Most of astronomy still uses Kepler's laws simply because the caculations are easier, and the accuracy you could gain by using Einstein or Newton is already lost before you even start (because of imprecise measurements).

When they say the "ISON will reach its closest point to Earth on Dec. 26 at a range of 40 million miles", that's a prediction based on its orbit. Sure comets can create jets that alter their trajectory slightly, but within limits. It's not going to stop and head in the opposite direction. A million kilometers here or there doesn't make that particular statement any less accurate.

It's like saying "I'll be there in 5 minutes". We don't say: "I'll be there in 5:21.232 seconds, provided that I don't die on the way, or some emergency happens before then, or an asteroid hits the earth". The rest is implied.

As for the luminosity, scientists don't claim to know the exact composition of every comet out there. We learn through observations, science hasn't stopped. New observations adjust old views and we end up with a better picture of how things work.
 
porchrat said:
Christ killa. :wtf:

Aren't you concerned that you keep seeing conspiracies everywhere??? :wtf:
Click to expand...

No longer involved in this thread, you are welcome to pm me. Dabean i am gonna pm you bro i got some questions if you don't mind :D.

Seriously ummm you follow me and tune me broken and you think i have the problem or you think you are contributing to something that is messing me up, brother you have no idea what tuning someone is, get DJ to give you lessons please because your approach honestly it doesn't have an impact at all other than i feel a bit sorry at times for having a different opinion because it seems to upset you so much, you go nuts and follow me, strange to be honest but hey each to their bro.

Anyways chat to you guys elsewhere. Dabean you seem keen on actually talking about ison so i will pm you as mention.

So guys that is it for me gents, talk about ison now. Peace out yo :D, remember ison is the thread title, now focus on comet ison as any more posts directed at me will be a waste of your time, rather pm them to me.
 
It's very simple Killa, You need all the help you can get. Hopefully by Christmas you realised the futility in your actions realising you made a mountain of a mole-mount. Sure things are serious in America but I am thinking rather they are preparing for a possible financial crisis or breakdown and the expected riots to follow than anything else. It seems You believe all the propaganda and doomsday videos on the net. That is dangerous. Goodness your videos, the one I posted, almost had me fooled and forced me to delve deeper into Ison details just to find it's a no show at all. Sure maybe a meteor will strike Earth one day, maybe Ison's path may be changed by the sun but handle that when it happens as there is nothing we can do about it, to base your current life and current circumstances around those doomsday scr@p predictions are just sad and very dangerous.
 
Last edited:
So killa makes some really weird allusions, then disappears.
Yeah, that's 100% rational.

I wonder if he even knows what the hell he wrote in those comments.
 
I would like to correct any confusion, SERIOUSLY is the one who had to be muzzled for stalking me in every single thread and announcing in the ME that i must be banned. You can imagine what happened after he said it and that was awesome to see :D. So silly to want a ban because you don't agree with someone. Then you stalk them and do nothing but post insults toward them. Scary That someone can be that far gone. So please note porch was not the one i was talking about nor do i have an issue with porch. I won't be stalking him that is for sure and i certainly won't call for him or anyone to be banned because i don't like their opinion.

Pathetic really but stalk away SERIOUSLY, no issues with it. I don't even want you banned. So fix yourself before you tell others they need fixing pal.

Anyways comet ison.....

GO
 
Last edited:
killadoob said:
I would like to correct any confusion, SERIOUSLY is the one who had to be muzzled for stalking me in every single thread and announcing in the ME that i must be banned. You can imagine what happened after he said it and that was awesome to see :D. So silly to want a ban because you don't agree with someone. Then you stalk them and do nothing but post insults toward them. Scary That someone can be that far gone. So please note porch was not the one i was talking about nor do i have an issue with porch. I won't be stalking him that is for sure and i certainly won't call for him or anyone to be banned because i don't like their opinion.

Pathetic really but stalk away SERIOUSLY, no issues with it. I don't even want you banned. So fix yourself before you tell others they need fixing pal.

Anyways comet ison.....

GO
Click to expand...

Links please! You really are disillusioned. You most of the time post incoherent BS as can be noted in this thread and then when questioned by other members about your motives and actions in their retaliation posts you cry wolf yet you try and pin it all on me. You really need serious help You are losing it.....seriously....... soon to have another melt down!
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top
Sign up to the MyBroadband newsletter
X