Comet ISON to be visible late 2013

Bar0n said:
Obvious troll is obvious.
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I'm guessing it is some conspiracy theory he has picked up somewhere by watching a youtube video or two. He perhaps doesn't understand the science behind it, if indeed there is any, but is attracted to the end of the world doomsday scenario it presents. If I recall correctly the guy was moggie over the 2012 end of the world thing too so this is nothing new.

This links in well with his apparent distrust of NASA and constant pointing to NASA not having much up on the comet (the typical "what are they hiding?!?" attitude that so often accompanies conspiracy theories).

Could be wrong, but that is the impression I'm getting at the moment. His unwillingness to spell it all out is not helping to alleviate my suspicions.
 
porchrat said:
I'm guessing it is some conspiracy theory he has picked up somewhere by watching a youtube video or two. He perhaps doesn't understand the science behind it, if indeed there is any, but is attracted to the end of the world doomsday scenario it presents. If I recall correctly the guy was moggie over the 2012 end of the world thing too so this is nothing new.

This links in well with his apparent distrust of NASA and constant pointing to NASA not having much up on the comet (the typical "what are they hiding?!?" attitude that so often accompanies conspiracy theories).

Could be wrong, but that is the impression I'm getting at the moment. His unwillingness to spell it all out is not helping to alleviate my suspicions.
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I linked a video. You are asking where i got my info from. If you can't be bothered to watch a fascinating video don't come and tell me i am doing this or that. That is where i got my info from.

If you cannot be bothered to watch one of the most interesting theories that is your problem, it isn't a conspiracy theory. I am waiting for the 1st of oct to validate what is SPOKEN ABOUT IN THE VIDEO I CLEARLY LINKED. Notice the flooding, mexico, Colorado, ukraine, russia, china etc. I said volcanic activity boom a volcano blew, i said flooding boom flooding in 3 or 4 more countries. Your scientific knowledge is based on what you know, you can't have scientific knowledge of something you have never heard of(video i linked). Watch the video porch instead of tuning me about scientific this and that.

If you don't watch the video you are naive one and not me. It changes everything and it isn't a conspiracy theory either. If you actually care about science you should watch it. Nasa keeps telling us about dirty snowballs, ison didn't come from an area they expected so even nasa are baffled but porch knows scientifically how ison works. As i said i should have waited for oct 1st because you are being so aggressive and acting like you know how the universe works. Anyways if you don't watch the video it is your loss actually.
 
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killadoob said:
I linked a video. You are asking where i got my info from. If you can't be bothered to watch a fascinating video don't come and tell me i am doing this or that. That is where i got my info from.

If you cannot be bothered to watch one of the most interesting theories that is your problem, it isn't a conspiracy theory. I am waiting for the 1st of oct to validate what is SPOKEN ABOUT IN THE VIDEO I CLEARLY LINKED. Notice the flooding, mexico, Colorado, ukraine, russia, china etc. I said volcanic activity boom a volcano blew, i said flooding boom flooding in 3 or 4 more countries. Your scientific knowledge is based on what you know, you can't have scientific knowledge of something you have never heard of(video i linked). Watch the video porch instead of tuning me about scientific this and that.

If you don't watch the video you are naive one and not me. It changes everything and it isn't a conspiracy theory either. If you actually care about science you should watch it. Nasa keeps telling us about dirty snowballs, ison didn't come from an area they expected so even nasa are baffled but porch knows scientifically how ison works. As i said i should have waited for oct 1st because you are being so aggressive and acting like you know how the universe works. Anyways if you don't watch the video it is your loss actually.
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Yet it bears all the hallmarks of one. Hmmm.
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
Yet it bears all the hallmarks of one. Hmmm.
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Sounds like a continuation of the Nibiru cataclysm.

The idea was first put forward in 1995 by Nancy Lieder, founder of the website ZetaTalk. Lieder describes herself as a contactee with the ability to receive messages from extra-terrestrials from the Zeta Reticuli star system through an implant in her brain. She states that she was chosen to warn mankind that the object would sweep through the inner Solar System in May 2003 (though that date was later abandoned) causing Earth to undergo a pole shift that would destroy most of humanity. The prediction has subsequently spread beyond Lieder's website and has been embraced by numerous Internet doomsday groups, most of which linked the event to the 2012 phenomenon.
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Sounds legit.
 
Guys watch the video. I promise you now you might think it is some conspiracy BS but it isn't at all, i know about the pole shift and the UFO theories. If you don't watch the video then don't comment and tell me it is a conspiracy video when you have not watched it.

Tell me has nasa taken photos of ison in august and sept?

If any of you actually give a crap about this sort of stuff watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34wtt2EUToo OMG youtube so it must be a conspiracy and no documentaries are on youtube.

No ufo's, no pole shifts, no doomsday stuff. It is a documentary and a very interesting one, some people won't watch it but i can assure you by avoiding the video you are basically saying we know everything and there is nothing new to learn.
 
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OrbitalDawn said:
Interesting footage doesn't mean you have to attach all kinds of BS to it.
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well you have not watched a second of the video, if you had you would realize we are talking about comets here and not the universe and thus the video talks about comets and not the universe. So comets being electrically charged is not the same as you claiming the universe is electrically charged. Anyways, comets BEING ELECTRICALLY CHARGED not the universe. Done, watch it, don't watch it. It really makes no difference to me but it does not talk about the universe being electrically charged.

So please note the video i linked is not about an electric universe, it is about electric comets as opposed to the dirty snowball nasa seem to stick by and i don't know but it is a different view on it and something no one can rule out. Unless you watch it i really don't think you should be commenting on it orbital, you couldn't even bother to watch 5 minutes to see it was about comets. Anyways, i don't care watch it, don't watch it up to you but if you are interested in COMETS not the universe the video is wonderful.

Anyways orbital you can't answer why we have no pics of ison, so i assume you don't know deep impact is out of control thus no pictures sadly. Aug,sept,oct i dunno when and they may not get it back it back online. Oct 1st-4th sadly we won't see the interaction with mars but it isn't just about mars that interests me.

by no means am i saying nasa is wrong. What i am seeing on our planet leads me to believe something outside is causing the trouble. I may be wrong, more than likely i am and i hope so because if i am not we are in for some serious shyte in the coming weeks. Coincidence deep imact spins out of control or cover up? Not sure but it's sad deep impact is down.

In the video i linked it shows you something incredible when nasa launched a projectile at a comet.
 
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killadoob said:
well you have not watched a second of the video, if you had you would realize we are talking about comets here and not the universe and thus the video talks about comets and not the universe. So comets being electrically charged is not the same as you claiming the universe is electrically charged. Anyways, comets BEING ELECTRICALLY CHARGED not the universe. Done, watch it, don't watch it. It really makes no difference to me but it does not talk about the universe being electrically charged.

So please note the video i linked is not about an electric universe, it is about electric comets as opposed to the dirty snowball nasa seem to stick by and i don't know but it is a different view on it and something no one can rule out. Unless you watch it i really don't think you should be commenting on it orbital, you couldn't even bother to watch 5 minutes to see it was about comets. Anyways, i don't care watch it, don't watch it up to you but if you are interested in COMETS not the universe the video is wonderful.
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I don't have any particular urge to watch an hour and a half video of pointless waffling, no. And I know this is about comets, which is why I said it's an offshoot of the Electric Universe ideas. :rolleyes:

And it doesn't say the universe is electrically charged, whatever that even means. It says electromagnetism explains certain features of the universe better than gravity. It's pseudo-scientific garbage.

Read the thread I posted. Thunderbolts.info are the ones punting this nonsense and they're one of the main proponents of the Electric Universe and the Electric Comet.

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Anyways orbital you can't answer why we have no pics of ison, so i assume you don't know deep impact is out of control thus no pictures sadly. Aug,sept,oct i dunno when and they may not get it back it back online. Oct 1st-4th sadly we won't see the interaction with mars but it isn't just about mars that interests me.
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No pics? Dude...

http://blog.ison2013.org/
http://hubblesite.org/hubble_discoveries/comet_ison
http://waitingforison.wordpress.com/updates-and-images/

First page of google results.
 
That is why i said orbital i would rather wait for oct before getting into all of this but porch was angry and aggressive and i need oct to come to validate whether my theory that ison is impacting the sun which is impacting earth. Crazy perhaps but the climate change simply cannot account for what we are seeing in such a short space of time. Even man made

Still can't find deep impact type images, huge struggles due to the sun i heard but link to hubble showing us a close up.

http://hubblesite.org/gallery/album/solar_system/mars/

Is there a reason hubble cannot get a nice image of ison? Seriously bro it can see planets light years away but it cannot give us a close up ison? I heard the sun affects it's ability to give us close up but you are more than welcome to show me hubble pictures of that clarity regarding ison.

No hubble close up, deep impact out of control. My only hope is perhaps the mars probe can capture images. Not sure of it's capability so i am doubtful :p, it will also give us valuable insight as to what we can expect provided nasa release the data
 
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Shifting the goalposts with the pictures there Killa. Besides im not sure how you can expect to get a close up picture of an object moving at such a speed.
 
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killadoob said:
I linked a video. You are asking where i got my info from.
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No, I asked you for your train of thought. I even provided a few example questions to help you better structure your train of thought to address my scepticism.


If you can't be bothered to watch a fascinating video don't come and tell me i am doing this or that. That is where i got my info from.
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For all I know it isn't fascinating. For all I know it is bunk.


If you cannot be bothered to watch one of the most interesting theories that is your problem, it isn't a conspiracy theory. I am waiting for the 1st of oct to validate what is SPOKEN ABOUT IN THE VIDEO I CLEARLY LINKED. Notice the flooding, mexico, Colorado, ukraine, russia, china etc. I said volcanic activity boom a volcano blew, i said flooding boom flooding in 3 or 4 more countries. Your scientific knowledge is based on what you know, you can't have scientific knowledge of something you have never heard of(video i linked). Watch the video porch instead of tuning me about scientific this and that.
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I've asked you for your train of thought. I'm not watching an hour and a half long video that may very well be a load of armadillo kidneys. Give me the condensed version.


If you don't watch the video you are naive one and not me. It changes everything and it isn't a conspiracy theory either. If you actually care about science you should watch it. Nasa keeps telling us about dirty snowballs, ison didn't come from an area they expected so even nasa are baffled but porch knows scientifically how ison works. As i said i should have waited for oct 1st because you are being so aggressive and acting like you know how the universe works. Anyways if you don't watch the video it is your loss actually.
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I don't know how ISON works. I certainly don't know how you think it works. Which is why I'm asking you these questions. The assertions you make fly in the face of what I know about astronomy and physics. I simply don't understand how such a small object, so very far away could possibly cause weather disruptions (not that our weather is being disrupted, as I said we've had weird weather before, sans comet)
 
killadoob said:
That is why i said orbital i would rather wait for oct before getting into all of this but porch was angry and aggressive and i need oct to come to validate whether my theory that ison is impacting the sun which is impacting earth. Crazy perhaps but the climate change simply cannot account for what we are seeing in such a short space of time. Even man made

Still can't find deep impact type images, huge struggles due to the sun i heard but link to hubble showing us a close up.

http://hubblesite.org/gallery/album/solar_system/mars/

Is there a reason hubble cannot get a nice image of ison? Seriously bro it can see planets light years away but it cannot give us a close up ison? I heard the sun affects it's ability to give us close up but you are more than welcome to show me hubble pictures of that clarity regarding ison.

No hubble close up, deep impact out of control. My only hope is perhaps the mars probe can capture images. Not sure of it's capability so i am doubtful :p, it will also give us valuable insight as to what we can expect provided nasa release the data
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I imagine a rational person would conclude that the lack of "nice" pictures is because it is new, tiny, several hundred millions kms away and travelling very fast. This isn't a star or a nebula or a planet killa.

There are plenty of lovely images of ISON. Just use Google for a minute or two. (oh wait nevermind I see those don't fit your strange definition of nice... apparently you want images like those ones that take ages to produce of beautiful nebulae and planets in our solar system).

Why are there no nice pictures of Pluto Hubble?!?!? What are you hiding?!?!?111!!!eleventy!!! Admit it NASA, Pluto is going to cause volcanoes and you are HIDING IT!!!!!!! :mad:
 
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