Considering buying a PS3

[noxibox]

If you're buying to play games first decide which games interest you, then check whether they're exclusive to a particular console. If not, then you look at other things like whether you prefer one controller over the other or think you'll want to upgrade the hard drive.

Wanting to play specific games or knowing other people who have the same console are valid considerations.

lol...always technicalities the one thing i've recently noticed....guys will never give reasons why to buy an X-BOX ...but rather reasons when considering the purchase of a PS3 (this is the 3rd active thread)....So there's no competitve edge the 360 really has anymore (bar some of it's exclusives which in all honesty is dulled by the PS3 offerings)...just really interesting...the only attractive aspect of the 360 these's days is a specific title (e.g. ME2 and you don't have a PC) or the general assumption of everyone's got one...it will be easy to get games, yada yada yada....

Just an observation...

Try sentences.

 

[I am Penguin]

A REALSITC view ... that's all. And he didn't mention Xbox - why would I mention it? I'm not trying to sway him ... just point out what it can/can't do factually

Problem is you do not really know FIRST hand. YOU are 2nd guessing as usual! So how can YOU give any experienced advice at all. Moronic advice to say the least.

According to YOU there are better devices in everything the PS3 can do. Care to list them and at the same time add the prices for each individual separate device or media component, to equate to the same spec or better per component or device. What an idiotic/moronic way of a feeble attempt to bash the PS3 now in three separate threads with the same stupid 2nd guessed list of personal arguments yet you never owned one, neither a BluRay system so You do not know what you are talking about at all..

 

[I am Penguin]

If you're buying to play games first decide which games interest you, then check whether they're exclusive to a particular console. If not, then you look at other things like whether you prefer one controller over the other or think you'll want to upgrade the hard drive.

Wanting to play specific games or knowing other people who have the same console are valid considerations.


Try sentences.

So you buy a games first and then decide on a relevant console?

Hmm, I must remember that when I have to buy someone a gift. Buy him a nice game then he can decide what console he must get to play it! :twisted:

 

[Dolby]

Problem is you do not really know FIRST hand. YOU are 2nd guessing as usual! So how can YOU give any experienced advice at all. Moronic advice to say the least.

True - I'm not qualified to give any advice :/

I mean having the PS3 for a near on a year means nothing, right? I may not be able give the best advice - but I think it's reasonable based on the fact that in the past few years :

I've owned 480, 720 and 1080 TV's with CRT/plasma/LCD technology ranging from about entry to mid end R5,000.00 to R25,000.00 ranging from 28" to 46"
I've had s a PS3 for near on year (Blu Ray too *gasp*) and tried various cables and connections, from composite to component to HDMI. In this time I've had two Xboxes as well
I've had speakers of various models from MBQuart, Acoustic Research, Yamaha, Sherwood, Infinity, Elac etc from budget to mid end (R2,000.00 to R25,000.00 for two) - both port and suspension design (ported and sealed)
I've had subwoofers ranging from Yamaha to Velodyne.
I've had various cables from Cable Talk to solid silver Kimber cable - also ranging from low - mid end ... bi-wired and stero
I've had a few model CD players from entry level R2,000.00 to mid end R15,000.00 - either intergrated or using a seperate Meridian DAC
I've had a few DVD players ranging from R2,000.00 to R8,000.00 (upscaling and non) - Sony ES and standard series through to a few Marantz models
I've been using CD, DVD, DVD-Audio and SACD for many years
I've had amps ranging from Yamaha, Onkyo and Marantz starting with DPL in the late 90s, through to DPLII in 2001 and the last few years had 7.1 as well.
I've had and used media streaming for many years starting from the Pinnacle Systems Showcentre, through to audio only Logitech Squeezebox to the TViX 6500
I've connected these via ethernet and wireless using G and N wireless
I've also controlled these with differing universal remotes starting at the LCD Marantz RC2000 MK2 from 10 years back - to a full colour, touch screen Logitech

I've experimented with various combonations of the above varying components. In essence, I think I have a fair reason to give advice - surely? Perhaps start realising that there are people here that have had the same experience as you - or better. Start understanding that there are people that may and may not have better equipment that you do. Start understanding that people value different things. Like you possibly have, I've also been at the forefront of technology being an early adaopter of PS2 (2001, believe it or not), satellite radio, audi CD recording, microwave broadband (2001 as well) and many other things

In addition to this, I often trade shows and listen to stereo systems and HT using many, many different components raning from low > high end as well.

This doesn't mean anyone needs to listen to me. But it does give me a right to give my point of view on a forum and others to read and judge themselves. If people don't like threads (ie this PS3 thread), they don't need to listen to me

According to YOU there are better devices in everything the PS3 can do. Care to list them and at the same time add the prices for each individual separate device or media component, to equate to the same spec or better per component or device. What an idiotic/moronic way of a feeble attempt to bash the PS3 now in three separate threads with the same stupid 2nd guessed list of personal arguments yet you never owned one, neither a BluRay system so You do not know what you are talking about at all..

Maybe reread the thread, IAP? See what it's about before crying? If it wasn't for people like me, then people like YOU would be giving out the impression the PS3 is *the* best at everything, regardless of price. I AM agreeing with you that for the price, it's a great all-in-one system for the average person. In fact, most the PS3 people agree that it's a decent all-in-one ... but cannot compare to everything you claim.

 

[I am Penguin]

True - I'm not qualified to give any advice :/

Yada Yada, too much bleeding to read!

You could not get the PS3 to do what you wanted it to do in all that time? So much for your expertise, never heard of bitstreaming over LCPM?

So you are still pi$$ed of and still claim the same even after you realized you made a grave error. Many others on this forum Bought the PS3 and connected it to use all those extra free avaiable features and was very happy to get that quality of a R4000.00 device. Not everyone needs a 100K+ system and still cannot even enjoy what the PS3 has to offer. Like DTS master decoding lossless sound over 8 channels speakers as the creators intended it as well as HD 1080p BluRay video with BD live features.

Can your system do that yet? At what price. Come clear friend let everyone see what you are all about. Most in this and the "SPECIAL debunk IAP" veiled under "UNBIASED PS3" thread you created already saw through YOU.

 

[Syphonx]

So you buy a games first and then decide on a relevant console?

Hmm, I must remember that when I have to buy someone a gift. Buy him a nice game then he can decide what console he must get to play it! :twisted:

obviously you dont know how to read

You could not get the PS3 to do what you wanted it to do in all that time? So much for your expertise, never heard of bitstreaming over LCPM?

OK R50 for whoever gets IAP to claim Dolby cant use a PS3,Dolby's already a millionare, but since Dolby couldnt get it to work properly, and he evidently has more AV knowledge than you comprehend, have you figured out how to switch it on yet? remember one end of the cable goes in the the 3 holes in the wall and the other end goes into the PS3. When you've done that I will tell you how to connect it to your tv

 

[Dolby]

Do you actually ****ing read, IAP? As in read, comprehend and understand?

 

[Syphonx]

So you buy a games first and then decide on a relevant console?

Hmm, I must remember that when I have to buy someone a gift. Buy him a nice game then he can decide what console he must get to play it! :twisted:

Do you actually ****ing read, IAP? As in read, comprehend and understand?

evidently not

 

[I am Penguin]

This doesn't mean anyone needs to listen to me. But it does give me a right to give my point of view on a forum and others to read and judge themselves. If people don't like threads (ie this PS3 thread), they don't need to listen to me

Maybe reread the thread, IAP? See what it's about before crying? If it wasn't for people like me, then people like YOU would be giving out the impression the PS3 is *the* best at everything, regardless of price. I AM agreeing with you that for the price, it's a great all-in-one system for the average person. In fact, most the PS3 people agree that it's a decent all-in-one ... but cannot compare to everything you claim.

And when I give you links that prove the PS3 hold it's own against the best you debunk it by referring to your own ego and relist all my claims of six moths ago with the hope of scoring brownie points. This OP is interested to buy a PS3 and you came and again as with all the other PS3 threads hijacked this thread with your same old song.

Fact is You Xbox cannot do what the PS3 does. Fact is the PS3 are a few rand more than the Xbox Elite and can do much more at better quality. Why You changed this thread in your own fiasco and then started this to continue you farce, only you know!

By the way the PS3 is the best at everything it does collectively. Show me any other device that can match it at ANY price.

 

[Dolby]

This OP is interested to buy a PS3 and you came and again as with all the other PS3 threads hijacked this thread with your same old song.

Yup - didn't point in the Xbox direction at all? In fact, just gave one or two real, unbiased facts. If I was buying a BMW, I wouldn't get upset if someone came to me and said the handling is a little off ...

Man Dolby just cannot comprehend that! He is still stuck on DOLBY. Never matured beyond that outdated technology!

Wait. There's no link between what you and RPG are saying? Did you maybe delete posts in between?

PS That outdated technology is still on most your Blu Rays and there's very tiny difference between them Reply in the other post about the differences - as I'm planning to to write in and tell them how they are are, as you can hear it ...

 

[I am Penguin]

I mean that he was deciding to buy a gaming console and you mentioned and put down everything about the PS3's media capabilities. You have not really mentioned the media capabilities of the xbox. Afterall, he needs to decide between the 2 and not between a PS3 and a BD Player right?

Man Dolby just cannot comprehend that! He is still stuck on DOLBY. Never matured beyond that outdated technology!

He cannot even comprehend that he deliberately hijacked this thread with his biased comments and baiting!

And by that, he means the limited home entertainment features

Non-bias enough?

Seriously? Read the thread. I told him to :

a) Not turn into a IAP
b) gave non bias advice

What exactly did you mean?

 

[Dolby]

a) The limited home entertainment features is a fact. Should we keep it a secret?

b) Yup - don't want him to turn into you :/ That's also fact ...

 

[I am Penguin]

This is what the OP asked. He did not ask for the "advice" you gave.

But... now this is a big but, I dont have a massive 1080 HD TV. I'm so sick of PC games being ports and wasting money on hardware for god aweful **** thats being released on PC. In my books, PC gaming is dead and gone. It's only scraping along; due to Publishers/Devs or whatever are needing the extra donut cash here and there. So they make ports. I'm over it. Back to the topic. If I buy one, will I be able to use my current PC monitor ( 19") to play on PS3. What extra cables will I need? Will it look good enough? Will I be sacrificing any visual quality? What are the cons and what are the pros. Thanks

EDIT: Where is the the cheapest possible place to buy one?

That was relating to gaming, not your own personal gripe!

 

[Dolby]

Oh - my bad ... didn't think a little extra information would cause you to wet your panties :/ Are yuo going to slam the other guys for giving opinions and not his question to ... ?

The ps3 is really an incredible little machine,never regret my baby

Def go PS3! You won't be sorry! And the HDD is upgradeable.

Wii Wii Wii Wii Wii Wii Wii Wii Wii Wii

You will NOT be dissapointed with a PS3 dude!!

Playing games is one thing but there are times that the extra functionality will add value to your life.

Even you added your own chirp ...

 

[Lemon369]

Yup - didn't point in the Xbox direction at all? In fact, just gave one or two real, unbiased facts. If I was buying a BMW, I wouldn't get upset if someone came to me and said the handling is a little off ...

Let me expand on your analogy....

So he continues ..."the handling is a little off and so are the brakes...gotta look at the performance results of the Mclaren F1 ..."
So you go ..." But that's a super car...i'm just looking at getting a production-line road car...."
So he continues..."Yeah, sure, it's probably the best for production-line road cars, but steering and braking is critical safety features...why consider buying anything less than the best when you will have your family/loved ones in it..."
So you go..."uhhh...thanks for wasting my eff'ng time..."

So yeah, great analogy, poor use or poor argument...personally, i believe most ppl responded as soon as they believed the purchase of the PS3 was dependant on the choice of perhaps another console and 2ndly to your 'unbiased' post....the response was a FAIL bud....if you said..."The PS3 is cool, but remember if you looking for a blu-ray player, only the x-box has this type of media support...." that's fine....but going..."It's not the best BD player on the market..." and expect that to be a decision making factor to joe-soap asking about the console, cabling to his pc monitor, etc (including pro's and con's)....but c'mon, it's not a con that it's not the best BD player in the market, it's a PRO that is' the only product in it's CE segment that has a BD that has all the features and full support for future features (like 3D)....

 

[Dolby]

games are roughly equal on either console and it comes to down to the exclusives. I've tried a PS3 and Xbox side-by-side with similar games (Forza 2 and GT5 Prolugue) with both on HDMI. Guess what? That massive difference everyone has been telling you does not really exist. Some games are slighly better on the 'box, some are better on the PS3 and some are negligable.

Blu Ray? Well that's pretty decent and could be a reason. But what exactly is 'not a massive 1080'? If it's small, you're going to be hard pressed to notice a huge difference between DVD and BD - let alone upscaled DVD on a screen that size.

Home entertainment - fantastic. Slightly limited in what it can play and do, but not too bad if that's what you're looking for. My TV plays more formats than what it offers. If you've got a ton of movies, series and music in different codecs/contaiers and are a real media buff, your best bet is to go seperate if you can.

Listening to certain people on here, you'll be think the PS3 is *the* best when it comes to every function. Truth is, it isn't, and it's up to the indivuda to determine what he currently has (equipment wise), what he will get in future (equipment wise), what he values most about the functions (BD? games? streaming?) andwhat games you prefer.

Let me expand on your analogy....

So he continues ..."the handling is a little off and so are the brakes...gotta look at the performance results of the Mclaren F1 ..."
So you go ..." But that's a super car...i'm just looking at getting a production-line road car...."
So he continues..."Yeah, sure, it's probably the best for production-line road cars, but steering and braking is critical safety features...why consider buying anything less than the best when you will have your family/loved ones in it..."
So you go..."uhhh...thanks for wasting my eff'ng time..."

Wait a second, Lemon.

Where did I compare or even mention another product or something that is better?

I still don't see anything wrong with stating a spade is a spade

 

[RPG_Fan]

He's got a point.

You'll find those that want a true sports car, actually end up chosing the Porsche Turbo as it's better in almost all respects.

This is where your logic is flawed. The Porsche is good in most aspects but not the best. You say you want "true" multimedia, you would recommend an all rounder and not get a specific standalone? Or was it because the Porsche was associated with the xbox?

 

[I am Penguin]

a) The limited home entertainment features is a fact. Should we keep it a secret?...

Only in your mind. The limit is that YOU do not own PS3 and neither any device that can compete with it so it remains your biased opinion as you lack the experience using it, yet found yourself compelled to give "Advice" (thumb sucked of course) about it. Only strange that the experts out there disagree with YOU totally and you cannot stomach that! The experts still rates the PS3's sound, video and media capability high whilst the MyBB Ex-spert disagrees as he is still stuck with DOLBY!

 

[I am Penguin]

I still don't see anything wrong with stating a spade is a spade

I agree fully, the goes for call an A$$ a A$$ I presume

Point is you lie about the PS3 as you do not know and lack the experience and expertise, the only time you tried the PS3 you could not get it to work, as stated by yourself, then You are trying to be an A$$ about being proven wrong.

 

[Dolby]

Only in your mind. The limit is that YOU do not own PS3 and neither any device that can compete with it so it remains your biased opinion as you lack the experience using it, yet found yourself compelled to give "Advice" (thumb sucked of course) about it. Only strange that the experts out there disagree with YOU totally and you cannot stomach that! The experts still rates the PS3's sound, video and media capability high whilst the MyBB Ex-spert disagrees as he is still stuck with DOLBY!

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