Considering the switch to a Macbook - how bad does Windows run?

I have a 2015 15 inch MBP with 16 GB RAM and 256 GB SSD.
Get minimum 16 GB RAM and the most storage you can.
I run Win10 on my MBP via VMware Fusion and it runs better than Win10 on all PC's I tried.
Reason for going VMWare Fusion and not Parallels same as above, VMWare Fusion is much more solid though it is a bit expensive.
Reason for going virtual machine and not Bootcamp is because I need to constantly switch between Win10 and Mac OS, I literally only press command + tab to jump from one to the other. In my opinion minimum 16 GB RAM if you want to go the VM route.

If I was in your shoes I would have done the same, in my mind Dell is a very good brand and they build some proper laptops, but Apple is just in a total different league both with hardware and software. Once you go Mac you never go back.
 
thanks guys.

What about Virtualbox? Use it a lot on Windows and generally happy.
 
It runs the same as an equivalent PC would.

In fact easier because all the drivers are loaded into one package so you install Windows and then run that and job done.

And you can of course experiment with MacOS which will convert you in no time.

With a bit of fiddling you can actually load your native Bootcamp as a VM and get best of both worlds. Full native Windows on the metal when you need it and inside a VM the rest of the time.
 
bigboy529 said:
I have a 2015 15 inch MBP with 16 GB RAM and 256 GB SSD.
Get minimum 16 GB RAM and the most storage you can.
I run Win10 on my MBP via VMware Fusion and it runs better than Win10 on all PC's I tried.
Reason for going VMWare Fusion and not Parallels same as above, VMWare Fusion is much more solid though it is a bit expensive.
Reason for going virtual machine and not Bootcamp is because I need to constantly switch between Win10 and Mac OS, I literally only press command + tab to jump from one to the other. In my opinion minimum 16 GB RAM if you want to go the VM route.

If I was in your shoes I would have done the same, in my mind Dell is a very good brand and they build some proper laptops, but Apple is just in a total different league both with hardware and software. Once you go Mac you never go back.
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That is the biggest load of *** I've ever heard.

A VM will never beat bare metal...never.

Not for the same machine specs.
 
SauRoNZA said:
That is the biggest load of *** I've ever heard.

A VM will never beat bare metal...never.

Not for the same machine specs.
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If you are referring to a Win10 VM never beating Bootcamped Win10, I totally agree with you, but I never said it does.

If you are referring to my comment that Win10 runs better on my Mac than on PC's I tried before, maybe I should have put it a bit differently. I maintain a couple of Company laptops mostly Dell and HP, just initially getting them from Win7 to 10 was a headache, endless driver issues etc. Even these days with each and every Windows update or change to a system, at least one of the laptops will give driver issues, slow downs etc. On the other hand the Win10 VM on my MBP just goes without any issues, same with Win10 on a colleague's slightly older MBP, his is Bootcamped BTW.
 
SauRoNZA said:
That is the biggest load of *** I've ever heard.

A VM will never beat bare metal...never.

Not for the same machine specs.
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He didn't say faster, he said better.
Actually I would agree with him. Macbook's generally have ***far*** better trackpad's than Windows boxen.
So, it would run better than Win10 on PC's.

Plus you have the best of both worlds. Personally I don't even Windows anymore.
 
lsheed_cn said:
He didn't say faster, he said better.
Actually I would agree with him. Macbook's generally have ***far*** better trackpad's than Windows boxen.
So, it would run better than Win10 on PC's.

Plus you have the best of both worlds. Personally I don't even Windows anymore.
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Sadly I have to Windows.

But yes the hardware is better I was more objecting to a VM running better than bare metal on other PC 's.

Even with the same hardware restarting until Boot Camp always beats the VM.
 
bigboy529 said:
If you are referring to a Win10 VM never beating Bootcamped Win10, I totally agree with you, but I never said it does.

If you are referring to my comment that Win10 runs better on my Mac than on PC's I tried before, maybe I should have put it a bit differently. I maintain a couple of Company laptops mostly Dell and HP, just initially getting them from Win7 to 10 was a headache, endless driver issues etc. Even these days with each and every Windows update or change to a system, at least one of the laptops will give driver issues, slow downs etc. On the other hand the Win10 VM on my MBP just goes without any issues, same with Win10 on a colleague's slightly older MBP, his is Bootcamped BTW.
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Yeah I was stuck on the VM factor, so a misunderstanding there and a focus on performance.

I agree that on the bare metal it runs better than most if not all conventional windows hardware.

But then I also have to say I avoid Windows if Mac OS has an alternative.

And yeah from a driver point of view the VMWare Guest package does make it pretty easy much like the Bootcamp unified driver in most cases.

What I can't stand is that Windows still can't understand high DPI and loses the plot in the Retina screens.
 
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Unfortunately I also have to still Windows for a couple of things, but to be honest I don't find it too bad, Win10 does what it's suppose to and doesn't give me any issues. I still don't know Win10 as well as I knew Win7 though, simply because I don't really bother digging in to it. A lot of friends and family still ask me for help since I'm apparently the local tech wiz, but if they have Win10 then I can almost never help, especially not over the phone like I could with Win7 and XP.

Then there's my odd little quirks like preferring Safari over Chrome on the Mac side, but I use Chrome on Windows, and on iOS I again prefer Chrome over Safari.
 
You don't get a performance hit. Bootcamp is a partitioning tool and a windows with mac drivers image creator. The laptop will boot into the selected partition like any other laptop with all the hardware dedicated to that partition.

Running it as a vm yeah you'll get a performance hit on the vm cause you're running 2 operating systems with all the gui and jazz at once and you have to spare resources for the osx host.
 
bigboy529 said:
Unfortunately I also have to still Windows for a couple of things, but to be honest I don't find it too bad, Win10 does what it's suppose to and doesn't give me any issues. I still don't know Win10 as well as I knew Win7 though, simply because I don't really bother digging in to it. A lot of friends and family still ask me for help since I'm apparently the local tech wiz, but if they have Win10 then I can almost never help, especially not over the phone like I could with Win7 and XP.

Then there's my odd little quirks like preferring Safari over Chrome on the Mac side, but I use Chrome on Windows, and on iOS I again prefer Chrome over Safari.
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Yeah it's much improved.

Sadly it's no OSX at all for me which is traumatic to say the least.
 
Been using Parallels for a few years now, running my windows in conjunction with macOS, for everyday tasks works 100's but as soon as you do more processor hungry tasks you will see a drop in performance. Running a 13" MacBook Pro Retina
 
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