Copy items off the new HD decoder?

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Hemps

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Hi All

If I record a movie say on the new dstv hd pvr, Is it possible to copy it off onto a computer or external drive and store for private use?
 
AFAIK the actual file on the decoder is still encrypted and is only decrypted while you watch it. So copying it to a pc won't be very useful since it's encrypted. That's why you also need a valid dstv subscription to watch recorded content i.e. if you cancel your dstv subscription you can no longer watch the stuff you've recorded previously.
 
Well that sucks :(

How big is the hdd in the new decoder?
 
Hemps said:
Well that sucks :(

How big is the hdd in the new decoder?
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The HDD is 500 gig. U definitely cannot watch the movies on a PC if you copy them across. They are encrypted. Also you can not put a bigger HDD into the HDPVR. Your HDD is "married" / hard coded by serial to the decoder.
 
No idea. I didn't enable the pvr function, I only bought this decoder for HD. There's a thread here somewhere about how to upgrade the HDD to a larger size to gain more capacity, but I don;t know if the same can be don on the baby HD pvr. I suppose it's possible, but I'm not doing it :)

I record via my Media Center PC. Yes, I can only record in SD, but I'm not paying the R65/m. I can currently record up to 400hours and can easily add more HDD's if needed.
 
Mier said:
No idea. I didn't enable the pvr function, I only bought this decoder for HD. There's a thread here somewhere about how to upgrade the HDD to a larger size to gain more capacity, but I don;t know if the same can be don on the baby HD pvr. I suppose it's possible, but I'm not doing it :)

I record via my Media Center PC. Yes, I can only record in SD, but I'm not paying the R65/m. I can currently record up to 400hours and can easily add more HDD's if needed.
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It is possible to increase the HDD of the decoder, you just need to partition the hard drive in to about 3 parts i think, i am not sure of the exact split as each decoder is differnt but its more or less 10 gig for software, 20 gig for OD and the rest is for recording. of course the stufffs up warnty :(
 
Mier said:
No idea. I didn't enable the pvr function, I only bought this decoder for HD. There's a thread here somewhere about how to upgrade the HDD to a larger size to gain more capacity, but I don;t know if the same can be don on the baby HD pvr. I suppose it's possible, but I'm not doing it :)

I record via my Media Center PC. Yes, I can only record in SD, but I'm not paying the R65/m. I can currently record up to 400hours and can easily add more HDD's if needed.
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The thread you mention is mine (http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?199055-SD-PVR-with-Sata-Hard-Drive), and is only applicable to the SDPVR. Both Pace & UEC HDPVR's have the new HDD hard coded marriage system. If the HDD goes down, your decoder can only be repaired by multichoice. The SDPVR can be routed through a PC / Media device. I used to have the mVix PVR on my SDPVR, no problems there...
 
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You need to use a media centre pc or dvd recorder to record from the hd pvr which plays back the recorded program, however the HD PVR uses CGMS-A copy protection which only allows a copy once to be performed by a media centre pc or dvd recorder. If your media centre pc or dvd recorder does not support this then you are buggered or have to use something like a grex to remove the copy protection. I use a grex and it works perfectly.
 
multichoice doesn't want you messing with their stuff... even if you paid for it. :p
 
Garyvdh said:
multichoice doesn't want you messing with their stuff... even if you paid for it. :p
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In most countries PACE and UEC decoders are far more stable and reliable. This is because their firmware and software are professionally written by their own in-house teams who have decades of experience. Now comes Multichoice, who insist on using their own software people, who are in the “Little League” as far as skills and experience are concerned…and thus the reason why many of the problems South African customers are experiencing with their PVR’s are not happening overseas. Multichoice could easily use the in-house tried and tested software…. but they arrogantly wish to impose their own inferior solution on SA. I believe that both PACE and UEC have tried in vein to get Multichoice to use the default software, but to no avail!
 
Why do they charge you for recording, do other countries charge for that service as well?
 
Are there plans for the baby hd to have the usb and ethernet ports activated?
Then maybe you can access the hard drive and use some sort of program to remove the encryption.

Hauppage have an hd pvr recorder that allows you to record hdtv from any box apparently.
 
No, there are no plans for the USB or Ethernet to be enabled.... Multichoice have disabled them on purpose and it will stay that way.
 
Hemps said:
Are there plans for the baby hd to have the usb and ethernet ports activated?
Then maybe you can access the hard drive and use some sort of program to remove the encryption.

Hauppage have an hd pvr recorder that allows you to record hdtv from any box apparently.
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I'm not sure you'll be able to records the HD stream directly since it uses HDCP. You will probably need a device such as HDFury to strip the HDCP first.

I doubt the encryption can be easily removed, it is decrypted with the smartcard (therefore a valid DTSV subscription is needed)
 
Gambit said:
You need to use a media centre pc or dvd recorder to record from the hd pvr which plays back the recorded program, however the HD PVR uses CGMS-A copy protection which only allows a copy once to be performed by a media centre pc or dvd recorder. If your media centre pc or dvd recorder does not support this then you are buggered or have to use something like a grex to remove the copy protection. I use a grex and it works perfectly.
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Just to make sure. This one is Grex, right?
http://www.xdimax.com/grex/grex.html
 
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