Corsa OPC

CaTcH21 said:
You say ALL OPC's are highly tuned ? I have a few friends with Astra OPC's and just a chip gave them serious gains ( just like the GTi). Like you, im not an opel fan so i dont know much about the Corsa OPC, but the Astra OPC apparantly has a K04 turbo, but thats besides the point. My point is, a chip will make the Corsa OPC much faster and quicker.
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The Corsa OPC is a very nice package, but at R230k I'd rather buy something else. I read somewhere that some poor soul didn't want his Astra OPC anymore and got a trade-in value of R170k :eek:

Anyway, I personally wouldn't chip a 1.6T, especially one from SLOPEL :D
 
JK8 said:
Lol aftermarket is not only chips... Sport chips can make any car faster...

@ Toxic, it doesnt have a German flag behind it.:p
Its a cool car, exactly what the market wants. Its target market is the Minis, unfortunately it lacks the class to compete with Mini.

In the last Car magazine test it came out second against the Clio and Seat. If the Seat looked a little better and had a more modern interior, the OPC would have come last.
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The Mini has status, not class. The Corsa probably has a better interior than the Mini.
 
Sheesh. I like the new Corsa OPC but pushing 140kw from a 1.6 is a little rough. I saw it on some Fifth Gear episode a while back and it doesn't handle particularly well. Still a sexy little car.

Oh, and I drive a 2004 Astra Coupe Turbo. Whoever says you don't get much out of the Z20 engines has a lot to learn. Less than R20 000 gets me 225kw in a superbly driveable, every-day car. GM built a few dragsters with the Z20LET making 1000hp+.
 
DarkDenim said:
I read somewhere that some poor soul didn't want his Astra OPC anymore and got a trade-in value of R170k :eek:

Anyway, I personally wouldn't chip a 1.6T, especially one from SLOPEL :D
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Hmmm its not Opel specific - maybe have a look at what trade-in you can get for a black bmw? :D
With the high interest rates almost ALL luxury car's value dropped.

Nocturnity said:
Oh, and I drive a 2004 Astra Coupe Turbo. Whoever says you don't get much out of the Z20 engines has a lot to learn. Less than R20 000 gets me 225kw in a superbly driveable, every-day car.
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I owned a Astra 200TS back in the day (C20LET motor) - I have huge respect for Opel. Standard it whipped almost anything (including a very surprised CLK 430 owner who wanted to show off for his blonde girlfriend)... the Z20 engines are just as bulletproof - heard about some serious mods done to them!
 
Eish am I so wrong in my posts?:confused:

Dolby said:
I'm amazed no one took me on that fact that's it's only marginally slower than a GTI ;)

Since I've been here, I've heard a few absurd things from forumite like chipped 335i taking a 996TT Porsche and a Velociti taking an RSI :P
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I still stand by that statement!!:D

CaTcH21 said:
dont be a f'kin dumba## ...

this is what you said ...


Then you say sport chips can make any car fast.
And again you wrong, for NA cars sports chip do shyte. Dude once again you prove you know very little but talk alot. and since when the freekin hell do you get a 'sports' chip ? a chip is a f'kin chip ... it does what you programme it to do ...
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You contradicting yourself. Sportchips do have an effect on NA cars just not as much as Turbo cars. (Im not commenting on the SW issue nit picker).
Eg 325i VS 325is, which is faster? All the BM "M" cars have sportschips.

CodeMaster said:
If by that you mean it is not of German origin, then I am :confused:
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Nope they not German, for the past 5 years I think.

CaTcH21 said:
here he hits the nail on the head.

Opel is from Germany
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WAS from Germany, can you not see the US designs? GM owns Opel.

DarkDenim said:
The Mini has status, not class. The Corsa probably has a better interior than the Mini.
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Mini has class lol sounds weird but really just exclude everything associated with the car, its a high quality car!
Ive never used a Car magazine anything to prove something, but they did give the OPC a bad cheap rating on the interior, the seats and the colour coded inserts werent upto scratch according to them.
 
Pfffft JK8 ...

My brother did a few things to his engine in January this year which took it from the 1.6 Life/Velociti to a 1.8. Yes, he has the same gearbox - but he upgraded the cam (276 degree cam), 1.8 crank and pistons. He ran it in and diced me once again and guess what?

He is alot quicker than he was on pull off, but again the RSI runs away from him after 2nd gear ...
 
JK8 said:
You contradicting yourself. Sportchips do have an effect on NA cars just not as much as Turbo cars. (Im not commenting on the SW issue nit picker).
Eg 325i VS 325is, which is faster? All the BM "M" cars have sportschips.
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I owned many NA cars starting from 1990 BMW 325i,1994 GVR6,1999 M3,
2003 Volvo S40,2004 C200, 2007 C55.
I chipped all of them besides the M & C55 and the gains were between 15-20kw which is not even worth it. Even the C200 with a SC gave little gains (Revo).

You giving BMW examples, im not sure which model 3 series you talking about ? E30 ? E36 ? please tell ...



JK8 said:
Nope they not German, for the past 5 years I think.



WAS from Germany, can you not see the US designs? GM owns Opel.
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JK, GM OWNS opel but the production plants are still in Germany (Bochum,Eastern Germany to be precise), and the main factory is based in Russelheim.

Dolby said:
I'm amazed no one took me on that fact that's it's only marginally slower than a GTI ;)

Since I've been here, I've heard a few absurd things from forumite like chipped 335i taking a 996TT Porsche and a Velociti taking an RSI :P
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dude when it comes to faster/slower/quicker it all depends on the weight of the car. My GTi chipped + exhaust (over 200kw) will smack an E46 M almost all the way to red. Just because im much lighter.

So chipped 335i will really keep up with Porsche 996, but this i have not seen so i cannot verify. But as for GTi taking on M's , its been done everywhere.
 
whats a sports chip??? ... thought a chip is a chip .. i know u get the piggy back type and then the type where they recode your exisiting chip on the car ... right??? ... dunno much of chipping a car ... sorry did not read everything ... but just from experience in my crew a chip did very little on an NA E46 M3 with no other mods... the car fueled more thats it... ended up damaging the ECU ... but yes a chip on a turbo car makes all the difference :) (seen those pro-cede 335i's ??)
 
CaTcH21 said:
dude when it comes to faster/slower/quicker it all depends on the weight of the car. My GTi chipped + exhaust (over 200kw) will smack an E46 M almost all the way to red. Just because im much lighter.

So chipped 335i will really keep up with Porsche 996, but this i have not seen so i cannot verify. But as for GTi taking on M's , its been done everywhere.
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i agree with you ... those GTis chipped are very quick .. had a tough time with one the other day ... did pull away with my 335i ... but it was like the way i pulled away from an M3 ... convincing, but not the way i thought i would have murdered it ...

... 996TT ... errr ... i wish ... still think the porsche will be quicker though to be honest ... a chipped 335i gives an M5 a hard time, with the M5 edging away ... those P cars are fast ...
 
adamr said:
whats a sports chip??? ... thought a chip is a chip .. i know u get the piggy back type and then the type where they recode your exisiting chip on the car ... right??? ... dunno much of chipping a car ... sorry did not read everything ... but just from experience in my crew a chip did very little on an NA E46 M3 with no other mods... the car fueled more thats it... ended up damaging the ECU ... but yes a chip on a turbo car makes all the difference :) (seen those pro-cede 335i's ??)
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You are right, a chip is a chip, from mild to wild ( as those bunch of ****ers put it [SAC] ).

And thanks for your input on the chipping of an E46. Now if you take into consideration the standard power of this car, and the chip does not have much of an effect, it proves that its really isnt necessary to chip because theres not much gains.

adamr said:
... 996TT ... errr ... i wish ... still think the porsche
will be quicker though to be honest ... a chipped 335i gives an M5 a hard time, with the M5 edging away ... those P cars are fast ...
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I also think the Porsche will be quicker because of it lighter weight and the aerodynamics on the car compared to BMW, but the 335i is such a brilliant car, it has shocked everyone.
 
Just out of interest, we did a Gtech on the Opel Corsa OPC now ...

7.6 sec to 100km/h ... up at reef altitude ...
 
Nah - the Gtech calculates the power of the car with high accuracy (http://www.gtechpro.com/accuracy.html) though. I can't remember the figure offhand ... I'll get it tomorrow.

But by comparison, the Toureg V10 was 7.8 and the previous Audi S3 was over 8. I'll post the graph tomorrow.
 
CaTcH21 said:
I owned many NA cars starting from 1990 BMW 325i,1994 GVR6,1999 M3,
2003 Volvo S40,2004 C200, 2007 C55.
I chipped all of them besides the M & C55 and the gains were between 15-20kw which is not even worth it. Even the C200 with a SC gave little gains (Revo).

So you did get gains... like I said before... you contradicting yourself....

You giving BMW examples, im not sure which model 3 series you talking about ? E30 ? E36 ? please tell ...




JK, GM OWNS opel but the production plants are still in Germany (Bochum,Eastern Germany to be precise), and the main factory is based in Russelheim.

And VW is produced in SA!
All the design and parts are now American.

dude when it comes to faster/slower/quicker it all depends on the weight of the car. My GTi chipped + exhaust (over 200kw) will smack an E46 M almost all the way to red. Just because im much lighter.

So chipped 335i will really keep up with Porsche 996, but this i have not seen so i cannot verify. But as for GTi taking on M's , its been done everywhere.
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@ Dolby

Thats just weird...
I dont have a Velo anymore, but I gave all the RSI's and RXIs crap!!:p

My new race, took on my neighbours Type R with my new Polo, tight engine and everything and still beat him!!!:D
 
Although the Corsa OPC is a sexy little car, it's not R230K sexy. Any car in that segment that sells for over R200K is WAY to expensive, even for enthusiasts.
And with the petrol price heading where it's going nowadays, I really, really don't care about how fast it can get to 100KM/H, even less what it's top speed is.
 
lcbxx said:
Although the Corsa OPC is a sexy little car, it's not R230K sexy. Any car in that segment that sells for over R200K is WAY to expensive, even for enthusiasts.
And with the petrol price heading where it's going nowadays, I really, really don't care about how fast it can get to 100KM/H, even less what it's top speed is.
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I'd say so too. In fact I'd say that even R200k is pushing it - the Polo GTi is way too overpriced compared to a Fiesta ST.
 
Prankst3r said:
What does the GTI do the 0-100km/h in, at reef altitude? :confused:
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I'm not sure actually :/ I've never tried a GTI on the Gtech. Do you have one we could try? ;)

Highflyer_GP said:
I'd say so too. In fact I'd say that even R200k is pushing it - the Polo GTi is way too overpriced compared to a Fiesta ST.
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I think you're paying for the hot hatch statement ... and the OPC does kill both of those tbh :/
 
Dolby said:
I think you're paying for the hot hatch statement ... and the OPC does kill both of those tbh :/
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The OPC beats them, all that means is that the OPC beats them ;)

Pricing on the other hand is a different issue. If the Polo GTi was in line with the ST's pricing, and the OPC was around R200k, then that would start to look a little more reasonable. After all not too long ago a 132kW GTi was the same price as the Corsa OPC, and it was a far more complete car. And the RunX RSi was around R200k, and it too was a more complete car. So there's really no excuse to use a marketing phrase to price a car higher.

OT: Dealers make around 15-20% mark-up per vehicle (don't ask me how I know, NDAs and what not :(), so if anybody is in the market for a new car and you're offered free factory options, then rather take it than the crappy R5k discount.
 
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