CPU Dilema

+1 nakedpeanut, i would also like to see where AMD beats Intel at gaming. The only reason i see for going AMD is if you already have a AMD motherboard
 
To all the guys saying that I should rather go intel...

- Phenom II 965 be + M4A785TD-V EVO AMD 785G Motherboard for R2860

An equivalent intel setup in the same ball park?
 
lloydkayak said:
To all the guys saying that I should rather go intel...

- Phenom II 965 be + M4A785TD-V EVO AMD 785G Motherboard for R2860

An equivalent intel setup in the same ball park?
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You have to keep in mind, that mobo is "old" chipset.

The I5 750 can be had for R1800 and a "cheap" (still current chipset - H55) mobo for R712, which would make it R2500+-, add R400 to get to your price and then add R200 for a decent mobo with "current chipset", and you can get the Asus P7P55D LE, the one I have.
 
The chipset might not be the lastest on the board I have chosen but the 785 chipset has brilliant reviews and that board is basic and has everything I will actually need (I will never go through the hassle of SLI and by the time I really want Sata 3 and USB 3 I will be upgrading anyway)
 
nakedpeanut said:
Lol I am but if he is set on AMD then thats my recommendation :)

If OP wants to consider Intel
I bought some parts from vision technologies:
i5 750
Asus P7H55-M (USB3+SATA3)
1GB 5770
500Gig HDD
R5000 on the dot..
Which is quite respectable for a walk in store :)

And when people say AMD is better for gaming.. You smoking some good stuff. In the past it was true.. At the moment Intel owns AMD in games! Well in every bench mark I've seen atleast 90% of the time Intel wins. This is in terms of fps and comparing the i5 750, i7 860, i7 930, PII x4 965, PII x6 1055T and PII x6 1090T.

At the moment the only reason to go AMD is if you want a cheap 6 core.. or cheaper crossfire/sli x16 x16 setup.

And as for the athone x4 rather go i3 530 if your intention is to game. It to beats that AMD chip hands down in gaming. http://www.anandtech.com/show/2901/12
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What are you smoking? AMD vs Intel in games is even. You will get a few % more with an Intel giving you 5fps more usually. So yes, its better but its by no means a land slide victory.
 
Archer said:
What are you smoking? AMD vs Intel in games is even. You will get a few % more with an Intel giving you 5fps more usually. So yes, its better but its by no means a land slide victory.
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Whats that corny saying...
Whether you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning. :cool:
I agree you'll most probably never notice the difference, but I'm fed up with people just spewing out AMD is better for games, which it just is not!
I suppose it game across as land slide as all 3 of those Intel processors beat all 3 of those AMDs. :D

But I agree with Shark, you dont want an old chipset! With computer parts, you must make sure you buy the latest (within affordable means) otherwise you going no where in the techno tree..

I only smoke the imported stuff :whistle:
 
nakedpeanut said:
Whats that corny saying...
Whether you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning. :cool:
I agree you'll most probably never notice the difference, but I'm fed up with people just spewing out AMD is better for games, which it just is not!
I suppose it game across as land slide as all 3 of those Intel processors beat all 3 of those AMDs. :D

But I agree with Shark, you dont want an old chipset! With computer parts, you must make sure you buy the latest (within affordable means) otherwise you going no where in the techno tree..

I only smoke the imported stuff :whistle:
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FFS guys, can you make up your minds now? :D Now I don't know what to buy .. :( If I can get a lekker AMD CPU and motherboard for cheap, I'll buy another HD 5850. How will that affect gaming? :D
 
lol depends on your screen size.. but a good GPU will have more of an impact on gaming definitely! Assuming there is no bottle neck between CPU and GPU.. celeron + 5970 would be a bad idea :D
 
lloydkayak said:
I have finally decided on getting either the:

AMD Phenom II 965 3.4Ghz black edition Quad core

or

AMD Phenom II 945 3.0Ghz Quad Core

For a new system for GAMING. I was automatically going for the 965 because its awesome but it now turns out I can get the 945 for R600 less without losing too much power.

My decision then changed to the 945 with intentions of overclocking until I saw that the 965 has an unlocked multiplier meaning I can overclock happily with that chip.

decisions decisions

Thoughts?
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I'm facing the same dilemma :)

Having a hard time convincing myself the 965 is worth R600 more.
 
IMHO, get a I3 530 + P55 mobo and whatever GPU you want. If you budget allows, go for the I5 750.
 
nakedpeanut said:
lol depends on your screen size.. but a good GPU will have more of an impact on gaming definitely! Assuming there is no bottle neck between CPU and GPU.. celeron + 5970 would be a bad idea :D
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That's the thing dude.. I already have a 5850, so I want to get a monster CPU that would be able to run nice with 2 of those babies :D. AMD or Intel? What's it gunna be! :D I hate buying CPUs because I never know what to take! :wtf:

How big an impact does L1 and L2 cache make on gaming performance? What's the diffs between DDR2 and 3?
 
to0kenZA said:
That's the thing dude.. I already have a 5850, so I want to get a monster CPU that would be able to run nice with 2 of those babies :D. AMD or Intel? What's it gunna be! :D I hate buying CPUs because I never know what to take! :wtf:

How big an impact does L1 and L2 cache make on gaming performance? What's the diffs between DDR2 and 3?
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Don't forget that by going AMD you can use the money saved in other areas like getting more ram or partial money towards an SSD.

AMD is the way to go. I'd also suggest the 955BE. I have one. :)
 
kelevra said:
to0ken,get a yourself 955be,overclock it beyond a 965be and get yourself that other 5850:D
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Qwikslver said:
Don't forget that by going AMD you can use the money saved in other areas like getting more ram or partial money towards an SSD.

AMD is the way to go. I'd also suggest the 955BE. I have one. :)
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Thanks guys! I've been thinking about what to do for a while now. So as I said, I'd rather spend less on AMD, which hopefully won't be TOO crap compared to Intel (as far as I understand it won't be major) and then get another 5850 and maybe a SSD. That should be good, last me for a few years? :D lol

Oh by the way, what motherboard would be good for the 955BE? Would I be able to OC it and have alright temperatures on air? Or must I get a decent air cooler? Any suggestions?
 
I would take it easy bashing AMD here... seem to be quite a few fanboois :)
 
lol you definitly wont save save R3000 by going a 955 over an i5 750 thats for sure :p haha. But if you do plan on going xfire make sure that the board you buy is 16x 16x. And that will most likely set you back quite a bit.. If I was you I'd sell your 5850 and buy two gtx 460's! Cheaper and more performance :D
 
nakedpeanut said:
lol you definitly wont save save R3000 by going a 955 over an i5 750 thats for sure :p haha. But if you do plan on going xfire make sure that the board you buy is 16x 16x. And that will most likely set you back quite a bit.. If I was you I'd sell your 5850 and buy two gtx 460's! Cheaper and more performance :D
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Sad thing is, he won't get that much for his 5850. Maybe enough to buy one GTX 460 1Gb. :)
 
The stock cooler should be till about 3.6Ghz, for get a Hyper TX3 or something.

What's the budget on the board?

for 16x 16x X-fire you need an 790FX or 890FX board which is quite expensive com[pared to the 890GX boards.

If you wanna future proof get a 890GX board with USB3. They all come with sata3.
 
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