Crazy random driver test plan

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Justice Project SA (JPSA) has described discussions within government to introduce a system where metro police officers could randomly stop motorists and retest their driving as horrifying.

"Whoever came up with this nonsensical notion should be fired immediately, before they get the opportunity to further facilitate corruption," national chair Howard Dembovsky said on Thursday.

"Firstly, very few traffic officers, let alone metro police men or women are qualified driving licence examiners and, secondly, randomised retesting is not the solution to the widespread systemic corruption in the issuing of driving licenses."

Eyewitness News reported on Thursday that Transport Minister Dipuo Peters had said government were in talks to soon introduce the system.

The minister, speaking on Wednesday, said this would rid the roads of people who had driving licenses, but who could not actually drive.

According to the report, Road Traffic Management Corporation (RTMC) CEO Makhosini Msibi said the National Road Traffic Act empowered traffic officers to do this.

On Wednesday, Peters released the Easter weekend road deaths statistics, with a record 208 crashes resulting in 287 deaths, compared to the previous year where 148 crashes resulted in 193 deaths.

"Surely by any standard and imagination, we just cannot accept this behaviour on our roads. Our roads cannot be death traps. It is the intransigent human conduct that is responsible for mowing our people to death," the minister said in a speech prepared for delivery.

Dembovsky said that, contrary to what Msibi claimed, the National Road Traffic Act did not empower traffic officers to randomly retest any person at the roadside, especially if they are not a qualified driving license examiner.

"The most obvious solution to the problem of so-called 'defective' driving licenses is to require mandatory retesting of drivers on renewal of their driving licenses every five years, but in order for this to be feasible, corruption must be eradicated," he said.

"Should the Department of Transport and their state-owned corporations decide to proceed with this ridiculous, corruption-enabling idea, JPSA will not hesitate to stand in its way and do everything possible to prevent this illegal practice from proceeding."

The transport department was not immediately available for comment.

News24 - http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Random-driver-test-plan-horrifying-20150409
 
This is too funny.. cops who can't drive in the first place deciding when other ppl can or can't drive.
 
Retesting every 5 years will result in driving examiners being flooded. They can hardly keep up as it is.
 
Maybe they got a plan here,
Could at roadblocks get a driving simulator hooked up to a pc, and test you there?

Is the driving simulator testing the right stuff.. is it applicable to our road testing laws.. is it regulated and certified?
 
No, it's stupid and they are treating the symptoms instead of the root cause of corruption.
 
Is the driving simulator testing the right stuff.. is it applicable to our road testing laws.. is it regulated and certified?

I suppose so, i mean airlines use something similar...
Do wonder how it will work, and if theres a difficulty setting,
So if your nasty to the cop, he'll make you do your test at night in the rain, with worn out shocks and a spanner for a steering wheel....
 
Maybe they got a plan here,
Could at roadblocks get a driving simulator hooked up to a pc, and test you there?
Aha, finally a way to get my Need for Speed fix while being loadshat at home.
 
"..mowing our people to death.."

And that was from a prepared speech?

No wonder she is not taken seriously.
 
I suppose so, i mean airlines use something similar...
Do wonder how it will work, and if theres a difficulty setting,
So if your nasty to the cop, he'll make you do your test at night in the rain, with worn out shocks and a spanner for a steering wheel....

Sounds Like NFS - Taxi Edition.
 
I suppose so, i mean airlines use something similar...
Do wonder how it will work, and if theres a difficulty setting,
So if your nasty to the cop, he'll make you do your test at night in the rain, with worn out shocks and a spanner for a steering wheel....

I think you're missing my point...

There are so many legal loopholes that they would have to jump through, for a simulator, or for a regular traffic cop to be able to make a judgement call on whether you can drive or not (on a permanent basis) that its just never going to happen... and the first persons license who gets taken away will take them straight to court and the cops will get a legal beatdown, again.
 
I think that this is a marvellous opportunity to acquire firearms from the police.

Drive like a tool. Traffis hops in to check your driving. Turn into quite road and bang. One new firearm.
 
I think you're missing my point...

There are so many legal loopholes that they would have to jump through, for a simulator, or for a regular traffic cop to be able to make a judgement call on whether you can drive or not (on a permanent basis) that its just never going to happen... and the first persons license who gets taken away will take them straight to court and the cops will get a legal beatdown, again.

I do hear you, and agree lots of details to be worked out,

But consider this, a pilot climbs into a simulator, does a few emergancy landings, and a few engine outs and even if nobody there watching him, its all recorded by the simulators computer and reviewed by the FAA (or in our case the CAA) and the pilot is clear to extent his ATPL,

Suppose they could do something similar here; if you got your licence in june as an example, you have to retest at a licencing dept every june, and if you pass licence extended another year;

They could make it work, only problem is theyll muck it up as per african rules.....
 
I do hear you, and agree lots of details to be worked out,

But consider this, a pilot climbs into a simulator, does a few emergancy landings, and a few engine outs and even if nobody there watching him, its all recorded by the simulators computer and reviewed by the FAA (or in our case the CAA) and the pilot is clear to extent his ATPL,

Suppose they could do something similar here; if you got your licence in june as an example, you have to retest at a licencing dept every june, and if you pass licence extended another year;

They could make it work, only problem is theyll muck it up as per african rules.....

There are no details to work out.

Traffic Officers DO NOT have a legal mandate as per the National Road Traffic Act to be able to determine if a person is a capable driver on a normal day.

What you are suggesting, is what some of us have been saying for years, every 5 years, you are required to do a road test... not necessarily as insane as the K53, but a basic road competency test before they will renew.
 
Dont certin traffic officers work at testing grounds?

And why is it that when you renew your licence they dont test your driving ability there?
Surely thats what the whole idea is for anyway?
 
Just enforce the law without corruption and exception and the bad behaviour problems will disappear on their own. As in many European countries, but Germany in particular, you don't get away if you drive against the rules.
 
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