Crime stats 2006

Thanks milano, but if you read my posts carefully again you will see I never denied any of this, you just assumed I did.

You certainly never denied it you just created the impression that apartheid was single-handedly to blame. Uh, well until you retracted of course. Sometimes the MyMichaelMoore members seem to have only one eye.
 
It is true, and you are correct, it does not excuse our current government for the dysfunctional criminal justice system.

If it is true then why is the crime in other places which have experienced similar and worse regimes/brutality not anywhere near that of SA's?
 
Where exactly do you suggest an appropriate comparison exists? ie, what region/country in the world?

Obviously there's no perfect comparison but most of the Soviet bloc experienced varying degrees of brutality and they were certainly all police states, Cambodia with the Khmer Rouge and the Killing Fields, the Balkans - former Yugoslavia etc, the Cultural Revolution in Communist China, even Zimbabwe, which fought a civil war, didn't have anything approaching the SA crime rate, at least before the recent land invasions etc. People have been brutalised and suffered under oppressive regimes all over the world, even experienced genocide and yet their crime rate is very different to SA's.
 
Thanks milano, but if you read my posts carefully again you will see I never denied any of this, you just assumed I did.

No, but this was pretty emphatic and clear:

sa crime= the crows of apartheid coming home to roost

You can't really to expect us to be psychic and read into this all the other bits you later posted.
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sa crime= the crows of apartheid coming home to roost

You are right, they are black not, with a white crested chest? Eating any rotten or fresh meat and will kill if they cannot get leftovers. Very cruel and barbaric bird.
 
Obviously there's no perfect comparison but most of the Soviet bloc experienced varying degrees of brutality and they were certainly all police states, Cambodia with the Khmer Rouge and the Killing Fields, the Balkans - former Yugoslavia etc, the Cultural Revolution in Communist China, even Zimbabwe, which fought a civil war, didn't have anything approaching the SA crime rate, at least before the recent land invasions etc. People have been brutalised and suffered under oppressive regimes all over the world, even experienced genocide and yet their crime rate is very different to SA's.

Nice list Syndyre. One point that differentiates apartheid from the above situations is that the above countries experienced revolution in the coming and going of the oppressive regimes. South Africa hasn't had a societal revolution in the coming or going of an oppresive government.
 
Nice list Syndyre. One point that differentiates apartheid from the above situations is that the above countries experienced revolution in the coming and going of the oppressive regimes. South Africa hasn't had a societal revolution in the coming or going of an oppresive government.

I suppose it depends how you define revolution, the change has in effect being revolutionary, the means were just less violent, which one would think would result in a less rather than more violent society at the end of the process.
 
Nice list Syndyre. One point that differentiates apartheid from the above situations is that the above countries experienced revolution in the coming and going of the oppressive regimes. South Africa hasn't had a societal revolution in the coming or going of an oppresive government.

Nope they handed it over with the hope of reconciliation and freedom to continue to live together and create a new "rainbow" society, but allas they were bluffed and conned as those rights is eroded and taken away based on ethnic past and race or skin color now that the roles are reversed. Actually expected nothing different. The shiite is still coming.
 
I suppose it depends how you define revolution, the change has in effect being revolutionary, the means were just less violent, which one would think would result in a less rather than more violent society at the end of the process.

Yeah, the violence is now after the effect, with the excuse of petty crime and poverty.
 
marine1 + other MyKKK members, please stop making statements about my beliefs. I am far more qualified to state my opinion than you are to state my opinion.
The same goes to you mrs I am perfect. KKK? No actually I think we are perfectly quaalified to define our beliefs ourselves. Thanks for trying though. Wonder what your attitude will be like in the next 20 yrs.
 
You don't think SA society is very different today than how it was under the height of apartheid?
The problems and characteristics of this country were repressed at the same time as everything else. Now that we have a democracy, communities express themselves more openly - including crime. So not a change, just things more in the open and more African.
 
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