Crook electricians

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Neighbour down the road, widow, lives alone was doing ironing and power failed.

She calls Council Electricity who take one look at the pre-paid meter and say "its not our problem lady" and say they will send the contractor who does work for council to see to it

He calls next day at 5.30pm, fiddles for 5 mins and power is back. He tells her the earth "something" is shot, it is a 2 to 4 hour job and will cost at least R4200 and he has to order the part and wants R2000 deposit. She pays. No written quote

He calls the following day. He was there 10 mins and installed what I subsequently see on inspection is a single-phase Earth Leakage Breaker, wired to the existing wiring in the DB. Invoice states "4 hours labour, components, wiring, hardware and travelling, total now R4800. The travelling part of the job is R900

She complains to the owner of this electrical firm. It transpires their office is less than 1km away. When she disputes the R900, he tells her travelling is calculated from the previous job, which was in Somerset West. Then she asks about the 4 hours labour, when the job took 10 mins. He tells her she is mistaken, but the job sheet shows "arrived 12h10, departed 12h22". He says that is from another job they did.

She then tells him that despite this new work, the power went off again. His response is that "the whole house must be stripped and rewired, it is all shot. Maybe R35000 or so"

At this point she calls me. The iron is the cause of the problem, the old e/l breaker is fine, it is no more than 2 years old when a new DB was fitted and the whole house rewired

I phone this business owner and state the facts. He won't budge and says she accepted the quote. I say there is no quote and his employee replaced a perfectly good e/l breaker without ascertaining the problem, was there 10 mins and yet charged 4 hours labour at R800/hour

I tell him that there is no way she will pay, he can collect the new e/l breaker he fitted. Down goes the phone
 
We need to start naming and shaming the scum bags that are taking us for a ride, although there are two sides to the story, the consumer should be right until proven otherwise.
 
My guess: Simply the Iron tripping the Earth Leakage, and no other issues.
 
Please give us this company 's name, the owners name and the electricians name. All of us would not want to deal with any of them in the future
 
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There is a regulatory board thingy

We also had a guy who gave us an obscene invoice. The board sent a guy to inspect and he called this electrician to come to our house and forced him into refunding us. This was 7 years ago so i cant recall who we contacted
 
Neighbour down the road, widow, lives alone was doing ironing and power failed.

She calls Council Electricity who take one look at the pre-paid meter and say "its not our problem lady" and say they will send the contractor who does work for council to see to it

He calls next day at 5.30pm, fiddles for 5 mins and power is back. He tells her the earth "something" is shot, it is a 2 to 4 hour job and will cost at least R4200 and he has to order the part and wants R2000 deposit. She pays. No written quote

He calls the following day. He was there 10 mins and installed what I subsequently see on inspection is a single-phase Earth Leakage Breaker, wired to the existing wiring in the DB. Invoice states "4 hours labour, components, wiring, hardware and travelling, total now R4800. The travelling part of the job is R900

She complains to the owner of this electrical firm. It transpires their office is less than 1km away. When she disputes the R900, he tells her travelling is calculated from the previous job, which was in Somerset West. Then she asks about the 4 hours labour, when the job took 10 mins. He tells her she is mistaken, but the job sheet shows "arrived 12h10, departed 12h22". He says that is from another job they did.

She then tells him that despite this new work, the power went off again. His response is that "the whole house must be stripped and rewired, it is all shot. Maybe R35000 or so"

At this point she calls me. The iron is the cause of the problem, the old e/l breaker is fine, it is no more than 2 years old when a new DB was fitted and the whole house rewired

I phone this business owner and state the facts. He won't budge and says she accepted the quote. I say there is no quote and his employee replaced a perfectly good e/l breaker without ascertaining the problem, was there 10 mins and yet charged 4 hours labour at R800/hour

I tell him that there is no way she will pay, he can collect the new e/l breaker he fitted. Down goes the phone
Neighbour down the road, widow, lives alone was doing ironing and power failed.

She calls Council Electricity who take one look at the pre-paid meter and say "its not our problem lady" and say they will send the contractor who does work for council to see to it

He calls next day at 5.30pm, fiddles for 5 mins and power is back. He tells her the earth "something" is shot, it is a 2 to 4 hour job and will cost at least R4200 and he has to order the part and wants R2000 deposit. She pays. No written quote

He calls the following day. He was there 10 mins and installed what I subsequently see on inspection is a single-phase Earth Leakage Breaker, wired to the existing wiring in the DB. Invoice states "4 hours labour, components, wiring, hardware and travelling, total now R4800. The travelling part of the job is R900

She complains to the owner of this electrical firm. It transpires their office is less than 1km away. When she disputes the R900, he tells her travelling is calculated from the previous job, which was in Somerset West. Then she asks about the 4 hours labour, when the job took 10 mins. He tells her she is mistaken, but the job sheet shows "arrived 12h10, departed 12h22". He says that is from another job they did.

She then tells him that despite this new work, the power went off again. His response is that "the whole house must be stripped and rewired, it is all shot. Maybe R35000 or so"

At this point she calls me. The iron is the cause of the problem, the old e/l breaker is fine, it is no more than 2 years old when a new DB was fitted and the whole house rewired

I phone this business owner and state the facts. He won't budge and says she accepted the quote. I say there is no quote and his employee replaced a perfectly good e/l breaker without ascertaining the problem, was there 10 mins and yet charged 4 hours labour at R800/hour

I tell him that there is no way she will pay, he can collect the new e/l breaker he fitted. Down goes the phone
Not sure where you live but these guys need to be exposed. They are ripping people off and also giving other electricians a bad name. Hourly rates do change from area to area but R800/hr is...... Wow.
 
Not sure where you live but these guys need to be exposed. They are ripping people off and also giving other electricians a bad name. Hourly rates do change from area to area but R800/hr is...... Wow.
Hout Bay which is has high end clients ...hourly rate for local biggest Electrical company is under R500 per hour ..so yes R800 is way over market
 
I called ECASA but he was expelled a few years back, but the van still shows their logo

It is Ben's Electrical of Southfield. His given address is 27 Lilian Avenue Southfield. The last house in that street is no 23, so another BS story

The phone was not answered today. Maybe he is in Pollsmoor, who knows

I got her a new iron which was on special at Clicks. It has a 2-year guarantee
 
This Ben guy or whatever the fudge his name is a crook and his business needs to be put down. Now onto helping your neighbour out, I'm assuming it's a core-balance type RCD they installed and seems like there might be a contact between L or N and an earthed metal frame on the iron. Let your neighbour have someone around the neighbourhood who understands basic electricity have a look at the iron or they'll just have to replace their iron.
 
Neighbour down the road, widow, lives alone was doing ironing and power failed.

She calls Council Electricity who take one look at the pre-paid meter and say "its not our problem lady" and say they will send the contractor who does work for council to see to it

He calls next day at 5.30pm, fiddles for 5 mins and power is back. He tells her the earth "something" is shot, it is a 2 to 4 hour job and will cost at least R4200 and he has to order the part and wants R2000 deposit. She pays. No written quote

He calls the following day. He was there 10 mins and installed what I subsequently see on inspection is a single-phase Earth Leakage Breaker, wired to the existing wiring in the DB. Invoice states "4 hours labour, components, wiring, hardware and travelling, total now R4800. The travelling part of the job is R900

She complains to the owner of this electrical firm. It transpires their office is less than 1km away. When she disputes the R900, he tells her travelling is calculated from the previous job, which was in Somerset West. Then she asks about the 4 hours labour, when the job took 10 mins. He tells her she is mistaken, but the job sheet shows "arrived 12h10, departed 12h22". He says that is from another job they did.

She then tells him that despite this new work, the power went off again. His response is that "the whole house must be stripped and rewired, it is all shot. Maybe R35000 or so"

At this point she calls me. The iron is the cause of the problem, the old e/l breaker is fine, it is no more than 2 years old when a new DB was fitted and the whole house rewired

I phone this business owner and state the facts. He won't budge and says she accepted the quote. I say there is no quote and his employee replaced a perfectly good e/l breaker without ascertaining the problem, was there 10 mins and yet charged 4 hours labour at R800/hour

I tell him that there is no way she will pay, he can collect the new e/l breaker he fitted. Down goes the phone
 
Neighbour down the road, widow, lives alone was doing ironing and power failed.

She calls Council Electricity who take one look at the pre-paid meter and say "its not our problem lady" and say they will send the contractor who does work for council to see to it

He calls next day at 5.30pm, fiddles for 5 mins and power is back. He tells her the earth "something" is shot, it is a 2 to 4 hour job and will cost at least R4200 and he has to order the part and wants R2000 deposit. She pays. No written quote

He calls the following day. He was there 10 mins and installed what I subsequently see on inspection is a single-phase Earth Leakage Breaker, wired to the existing wiring in the DB. Invoice states "4 hours labour, components, wiring, hardware and travelling, total now R4800. The travelling part of the job is R900

She complains to the owner of this electrical firm. It transpires their office is less than 1km away. When she disputes the R900, he tells her travelling is calculated from the previous job, which was in Somerset West. Then she asks about the 4 hours labour, when the job took 10 mins. He tells her she is mistaken, but the job sheet shows "arrived 12h10, departed 12h22". He says that is from another job they did.

She then tells him that despite this new work, the power went off again. His response is that "the whole house must be stripped and rewired, it is all shot. Maybe R35000 or so"

At this point she calls me. The iron is the cause of the problem, the old e/l breaker is fine, it is no more than 2 years old when a new DB was fitted and the whole house rewired

I phone this business owner and state the facts. He won't budge and says she accepted the quote. I say there is no quote and his employee replaced a perfectly good e/l breaker without ascertaining the problem, was there 10 mins and yet charged 4 hours labour at R800/hour

I tell him that there is no way she will pay, he can collect the new e/l breaker he fitted. Down goes the phone
Sorry to hear such remarks, but its always better to get second opinion or know good and reliable technicians.
 
I actually agree :)
But worth a shot

I tried reporting two electricians when I moved house. The first being the electrician who issued the COC for my home I was moving out of. I used the same guy who issued the COC to the previous owners. Low and behold despite not changing a single thing electrically since living there, he now found R10k+ worth of stuff that needs "fixing". When I pointed out that he issued the previous COC, the debate got heated.

The second was the electrician who issued the COC of the house I was moving into. Basically he never set foot in that house before in his life! Plain and simple bought COC.

In both instances the electrical compliance board were not interested and referred me to the Department of Labour who basically "governmented" me. I still have the emails. COC is a money making sham!
 
I happened to be in Clicks this morning and spotted the special. Was only R139 for this Philips model. They all seem much the same to me. She told me this new one is much lighter
 
This Ben guy or whatever the fudge his name is a crook and his business needs to be put down. Now onto helping your neighbour out, I'm assuming it's a core-balance type RCD they installed and seems like there might be a contact between L or N and an earthed metal frame on the iron. Let your neighbour have someone around the neighbourhood who understands basic electricity have a look at the iron or they'll just have to replace their iron.

I threw it out. The cover seemed glued shut and after a few mins fiddling, I put it in the bin. At R139 its not worth more time
 
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