Crossing Solid Line on Exiting Private Driveway

[campsbayrich]

Hi all,

I've got a pretty simple question, but I'm struggling to find a definitive answer, and getting a couple of different opinions from different people.

In a situation where a private driveway exits onto a public road (standard suburban road) where there is a solid line, may that car exit across the lane of traffic to enter the lane furthest from them, or must they turn into the lane closest to them?

Thanks!

Rich

 

[longboy]

I think that you do not have right of way in crossing the solid line, it does not matter where your point of entry is from.

 

[Pitbull]

Hi all,

I've got a pretty simple question, but I'm struggling to find a definitive answer, and getting a couple of different opinions from different people.

In a situation where a private driveway exits onto a public road (standard suburban road) where there is a solid line, may that car exit across the lane of traffic to enter the lane furthest from them, or must they turn into the lane closest to them?

Thanks!

Rich

90% of urban roads have a solid line due to the distance of the roads (normally short) and the enclosed driveways being a danger. So they should all exit by going left? Come on

 

[Willy Strong]

(1) Whenever any public road has been divided into two or more roadways by means of an intervening space or by a physical barrier or dividing section so constructed as to impede vehicular traffic, no person shall drive a vehicle upon such public road except upon the left-hand roadway, unless directed or permitted by an appropriate road traffic sign or a traffic officer to use another roadway.


(2) No person shall drive a vehicle on, over, across or within any dividing space, barrier or section referred to in subregulation (1), except through a constructed intersection: Provided that no person shall so drive through such constructed intersection where such driving is prohibited by an appropriate road traffic sign or by a traffic officer: Provided further that the provisions of this subregulation shall not apply to a traffic officer in the performance of his or her duties.

[Regulation 297(2) substituted by regulation 52 of General Notice 2116 of 2001]

 

[Nerfherder]

Must turn left !

Sucks but its going to make more problems if they try gun it and turn right.

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

Crossing a solid white line is illegal. End.

 

[The_Ogre]

^ this is why I bought a brand-spanking-new forklift.

Once I'm out on the street I use the forklift to lift my car over the solid line so that I can proceed to the right.

Forklifts don't have license plates so the traffic officer can suck it!

 

[campsbayrich]

Crossing a solid white line is illegal. End.

It makes sense. I'm just amazed how few people understand that this is the case and how little compliance / enforcement there is around it.

 

[campsbayrich]

Crossing a solid white line is illegal. End.

By that reasoning, it would mean that it is illegal to turn into the driveway from the road, unless you are in the lane closest to the driveway. Are you 100% certain that is correct, as it definitely is not the way people drive (at least in my part of the world)...

 

[MickZA]

By that reasoning, it would mean that it is illegal to turn into the driveway from the road, unless you are in the lane closest to the driveway. Are you 100% certain that is correct, as it definitely is not the way people drive (at least in my part of the world)...

In PE they eventually had to install a narrow central island (further reducing the road width) on a section of Cape Road to prevent right turns. Admittedly traffic volumes had increased due to properties being granted business rights but it was already a problem prior to that.

 

[AdrianH]

Crossing a solid white line is illegal. End.

It makes sense. I'm just amazed how few people understand that this is the case and how little compliance / enforcement there is around it.

I see many motorcyclists often cross solid white lines multiple times when "lane-splitting" coming up to an intersection to get to the front of all the cars. Unfortunately it seems that lane-splitting is not very well understand by many including drivers and motorcyclists.

 

[The_MAC]

I think that this question also ties up with the whole single-solid-line and striped-line-with-2-solid-lines question. AFAIK the solid line is never to be crossed, but the striped line with 2 solids can only be crossed in an emergency or when pulling into a property.

So which one is painted on our suburban roads, most roads don't have any lines, and those that had are completely faded away?

 

[MagicDude4Eva]

In the Fourways area we have a few of those, but in all instances a solid line in front of an estate/complex is "dashed"/interrupted to mark that you are able to turn into/leave the estate.

Suggestions of a clandestine outdoors operation

 

[campsbayrich]

In the Fourways area we have a few of those, but in all instances a solid line in front of an estate/complex is "dashed"/interrupted to mark that you are able to turn into/leave the estate.

Suggestions of a clandestine outdoors operation
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Yup; entrances into estates aren't a problem as they are usually official intersections and the solid line (if there is one) has been broken. It's private driveways that I'm most interested in. But I think it's correct that if it's a solid line, you shouldn't be crossing it, regardless.

 

[Pitbull]

Just paint part of the lines black in your street then in front of your house

 

[Pitbull]

Yup; entrances into estates aren't a problem as they are usually official intersections and the solid line (if there is one) has been broken. It's private driveways that I'm most interested in. But I think it's correct that if it's a solid line, you shouldn't be crossing it, regardless.

Why this issue though? What happened, you want to complain about your neighbour?

Edit: actually, I just thought about this now. My house is on a bend. If I need to turn left into my yard without crossing the line, people coming from behind will run into my car if I wait for the gate to open. They cant see around the bend from that side. If however I cross the line to enter people behind me can see I'm about to turn as that section of the road is straight. So it's safer to break the law than abide by it in my case then. And yes, it's a solid line.

 

[Bona Botse]

All right turns should be banned anyway.

 

[rrh]

^ this is why I bought a brand-spanking-new forklift.

Once I'm out on the street I use the forklift to lift my car over the solid line so that I can proceed to the right.

Forklifts don't have license plates so the traffic officer can suck it!

If the forklift is on a public road it must be licensed & have a license plate ...

 

[The_Ogre]

If the forklift is on a public road it must be licensed & have a license plate ...

Damn!

Anybody want to buy a forklift?

 

[SauRoNZA]

I think that this question also ties up with the whole single-solid-line and striped-line-with-2-solid-lines question. AFAIK the solid line is never to be crossed, but the striped line with 2 solids can only be crossed in an emergency or when pulling into a property.

So which one is painted on our suburban roads, most roads don't have any lines, and those that had are completely faded away?

No the double solid with stripes in the middle is just as illegal to cross as a single.

It's specifically there to indicate no overtaking at the given point in time and when it opens up again with the solid line falling away on a side you can overtake only FROM that side so as to cross from the stripes over the solid and never from the solid into the stripes.


But in my opinion an emergency (a real one) the last thing I'm going to worry about is a silly painted line...especially a retarded one such as described here where it's in a residential area.