Crypto mining can void your graphics card warranty

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While suppliers would have previously sent failed cards to manufacturers for replacement, manufacturers are now voiding the warranty of cards used in cryptocurrency mining, said van Zyl.

Manufacturers have comprehensive testing tools and check each component before physically rebuilding each graphics card, he added.
How can they tell whether a card has been used for mining purposes?

“A card that had its BIOS altered or been used outside of its specification or intended use will have the warranty voided.”
So if I used a graphics card for simulating weather patterns or protein folding...that would also fall outside of what's considered 'intended use' and void the warranty?
 

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Very sure that crypto mining would not void your warranty and they'd have a difficult time declining due to it, it's if it fails due to you modding it or clocking it way above guaranteed that they'd decline.
 

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Very sure that crypto mining would not void your warranty and they'd have a difficult time declining due to it, it's if it fails due to you modding it or clocking it way above guaranteed that they'd decline.

100%.. if you screw with the card then you void the warranty, regardless of what you used it for.
 

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Guy from Raru showing the world he is a world class imbecile. Mining does NOT void the warranty and there is NO way to prove a card was mined. And even if there was, there is NOTHING in the warranty contract that states a card may not be mined. Whichever "journalist" did the research on this article is as useless as the Raru guy.
 

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Whichever "journalist" did the research on this article is as useless as the Raru guy.
Would actually have been an interesting article had they pushed for additional technical information. Really wish they'd dig deeper with these articles.
 

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Guy from Raru showing the world he is a world class imbecile. Mining does NOT void the warranty and there is NO way to prove a card was mined. And even if there was, there is NOTHING in the warranty contract that states a card may not be mined. Whichever "journalist" did the research on this article is as useless as the Raru guy.

Actually,

https://www.pny.com/File Library/Su.../GeForce Graphics/3-Year-Limited-Warranty.pdf

THIS WARRANTY SHALL NOT APPLY WHERE PRODUCT(S) ARE USED TO ANY DEGREE, OUTSIDE OF NORMAL INTENDED
USE, WHICH SHALL INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO “MINING” (e.g., Cryptocurrency, Data Mining, Mining Farms).

http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/support/xfx-warranty

What is not covered by this limited hardware warranty?

...

Products used outside of normal home and personal use. This includes industrial, business, mining, mining farms, rendering farms, computer clusters, and server use.

You can go read the other limited warranties. Are you too lazy to do your own homework?

You do know how the RMA process works? Colin van Zyl is correct, he made a statement in line with the terms and conditions they must adhere to. They do have telemetry testing capabilities to investigate your GPU's use.
 

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Actually,

https://www.pny.com/File Library/Su.../GeForce Graphics/3-Year-Limited-Warranty.pdf



http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/support/xfx-warranty



You can go read the other limited warranties. Are you too lazy to do your own homework?

You do know how the RMA process works? Colin van Zyl is correct, he made a statement in line with the terms and conditions they must adhere to. They do have telemetry testing capabilities to investigate your GPU's use.

I stand corrected. But to be fair, graphics cards from those manufacturers are not readily available in SA?

Also, how do they prove it? Telemetry testing? First time I hear about that. I have returned a few GPUs that were mined. Replaced NO questions asked.
 

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Actually,

https://www.pny.com/File Library/Su.../GeForce Graphics/3-Year-Limited-Warranty.pdf



http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/support/xfx-warranty



You can go read the other limited warranties. Are you too lazy to do your own homework?

You do know how the RMA process works? Colin van Zyl is correct, he made a statement in line with the terms and conditions they must adhere to. They do have telemetry testing capabilities to investigate your GPU's use.

From a reddit post about it, that only applies in the US
XFX Warranty in NA: "As long as you return the card to stock, we will still honor the warranty." self.Amd

submitted 1 year ago * by Snowshoes2RED DEVIL RX 480
NOTE: He explicitly states this applies to North America.

Aftermarket cooling and overclocking is A ok! Ohh and they are based in the US, which means native english speaking customer support. They also test every single GPU & board, not just the die, to bin them separately. This damn near puts them on par with EVGA imo!

He also stated that the 480 DD will have a beefier cooler than their 390x too!

Step aside Sapphire, there is a new AMD exclusive in town!

Source,

@18:00

https://soundcloud.com/overclock-net/episode-30-we-love-bad-press-featuring-erik-adams-from-xfx

This guy puts sapphire ed to shame. When I listen to Ed, he is a seemingly nice guy, but it feels like I am talking to a used card dealer. This guy is just stating the facts, no PR bull****.

PS: He also states they will have a better warranty, which to me insinuates 3 year warranty
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4ver34/xfx_warranty_in_na_as_long_as_you_return_the_card/

Still wondering how they'll prove it and how they think it will hold up in CPA.
 

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I stand corrected. But to be fair, graphics cards from those manufacturers are not readily available in SA?

Also, how do they prove it? Telemetry testing? First time I hear about that. I have returned a few GPUs that were mined. Replaced NO questions asked.

It is only ‘really’ possible to read the BIOS, they claim telemetry capabilities and I know that ASUS has voided on that… whether they can do this on hardware level I don't know. I guess that they will look at modded straps (memory timings) which is only a case with AMD in general.
 

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Actually,

https://www.pny.com/File Library/Su.../GeForce Graphics/3-Year-Limited-Warranty.pdf



http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/support/xfx-warranty



You can go read the other limited warranties. Are you too lazy to do your own homework?

You do know how the RMA process works? Colin van Zyl is correct, he made a statement in line with the terms and conditions they must adhere to. They do have telemetry testing capabilities to investigate your GPU's use.

I must say XFX has been very good to me.

They replaced R9 290 for me that vrm's has burned out on, client did mine a bit on it.

They replaced it with R9 390 which fans failed on a few months after, they send me new fans to replace it with for free. The R9 390 was mined on 24/7.
 

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I must say XFX has been very good to me.

They replaced R9 290 for me that vrm's has burned out on, client did mine a bit on it.

They replaced it with R9 390 which fans failed on a few months after, they send me new fans to replace it with for free. The R9 390 was mined on 24/7.

I love XFX, the only AMD brand that I buy. It is a pity that we don’t have their extended warranty program in SA.
 

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The best way to ensure that you 'may' be within warranty is to make sure that you RMA the GPU with the original BIOS. I think this is the only lesson here.
 

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The best way to ensure that you 'may' be within warranty is to make sure that you RMA the GPU with the original BIOS. I think this is the only lesson here.

Common sense? Messing with the BIOS and expecting an RMA is illogical. Stock card returned within warranty = RMA.
 

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Common sense? Messing with the BIOS and expecting an RMA is illogical. Stock card returned within warranty = RMA.

The issue is, not everyone thinks that far… especially people who are technically unaware of repercussions. Remember, many people’s ‘friends’ got them into cryptomining.
 

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The issue is, not everyone thinks that far… especially people who are technically unaware of repercussions. Remember, many people’s ‘friends’ got them into cryptomining.

Also true agreed.
 

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The issue is, not everyone thinks that far… especially people who are technically unaware of repercussions. Remember, many people’s ‘friends’ got them into cryptomining.

You would think basic common sense would apply..

Any modification to a product, will void the warranty pretty much. This applies to everything out there.
 

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The best way to ensure that you 'may' be within warranty is to make sure that you RMA the GPU with the original BIOS. I think this is the only lesson here.

+1

Other than that there is no way for anyone to tell what the card was used for.
 
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