Cyclist died

R_D_V said:
I know of much younger cyclists and people doing other sports that have suffered a similar fate before COVID and masks were ever a thing.

The common link? Cardiovascular exercise.

You have a certain number of heartbeats assigned to you at birth, when you do cardio your heart beats faster so you use up those heartbeats faster. That's my excuse for not doing regular exercise and I'm sticking to it.
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Oh wow :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
 
cpu. said:
Better to wear a cloth mask, since it allow for easier breathing.
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Even a cloth mask / buff would last only so long until it becomes ridiculous to continue. About 2 hours in of heavy breathing and the cold weather making ones nose run, that mask becomes drenched with sweat and snot.
 
R_D_V said:
I know of much younger cyclists and people doing other sports that have suffered a similar fate before COVID and masks were ever a thing.

The common link? Cardiovascular exercise.

You have a certain number of heartbeats assigned to you at birth, when you do cardio your heart beats faster so you use up those heartbeats faster. That's my excuse for not doing regular exercise and I'm sticking to it.
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upup said:
Today I heard of a cyclist [about 60 years old] who went riding his bike with a mask. He was found dead next to the road, blue in the face, dead. You can see he climb off. The family thinks he died because off the mask on. Your comment please. They say it was not a heart attack.
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Most likely a heart attack. Older men have a much higher chance of dying from heart attacks when doing vigorous exercise. Even very fit athletes. Seen this happen often in long course endurance events.
 
Emjay said:
Most likely a heart attack. Older men have a much higher chance of dying from heart attacks when doing vigorous exercise. Even very fit athletes. Seen this happen often in long course endurance events.
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Don't be stupid. It was the mask. :p
 
rietrot said:
The mask would definitely be a contributing factor.
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No. It won't. No athlete would be stupid enough to wear a very restrictive mask. A buff is a better option (and is what I use), and they would know to breath out harder to flush out all of the carbon dioxide. Pic below for an example. Dropping the buff for a minute to regain breath is easy. Most athletes will have this in their wardrobe already as it's standard winter wear.

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Emjay said:
No. It won't. No athlete would be stupid enough to wear a very restrictive mask. A buff is a better option (and is what I use), and they would know to breath out harder to flush out all of the carbon dioxide. Pic below for an example. Dropping the buff for a minute to regain breath is easy. Most athletes will have this in their wardrobe already as it's standard winter wear.

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I use a buff in summer mostly. :D
 
Emjay said:
No. It won't. No athlete would be stupid enough to wear a very restrictive mask. A buff is a better option (and is what I use), and they would know to breath out harder to flush out all of the carbon dioxide. Pic below for an example. Dropping the buff for a minute to regain breath is easy. Most athletes will have this in their wardrobe already as it's standard winter wear.

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Well I'm talking for personal experience, and if you are as unfit as I am just breathing is already a problem, nevermind breathing out harder to flush out the CO2
 
Sinbad said:
I use a buff in summer mostly. :D
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I do too. But it's to keep sweat out of my face on those long training sessions.

But, back on topic. Blue lips are a symptom of heart failure too. Not to mention it could also have been due to the cold. If the poor guy had stopped at any point and was not properly layered, he would of gotten very cold, very quickly. If there was any wind chill, that's asking for hypothermia.

www.express.co.uk

Heart attack warning - why you should never ignore this colour on your lips

HEART ATTACK symptoms vary from person to person, but may include chest pain, dizziness and feeling short of breath. But you could also be at risk of heart attack signs, as well as coronary heart disease, if you have coloured lips. What colour should you be looking out for?
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rietrot said:
Well I'm talking for personal experience, and if you are as unfit as I am just breathing is already a problem, nevermind breathing out harder to flush out the CO2
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I am also speaking from experience. You will never die from hyperventilating or co2 poisoning from exercise. The brain protects itself before it gets to that point i.e. stops you from moving by causing you to black out. That gives the body time to recover. Even if a mask is present, the reduced oxygen requirement (due to not exercising will not kill him).
 
We used to joke about dying all the time, but it's really not possible if there are no underlying conditions.
 
Why is this still being discussed? It's making some of you look really stupid.

Perhaps that's the point....
 
LCBXX said:
Why is this still being discussed? It's making some of you look really stupid.

Perhaps that's the point....
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Because some of us(me) don't know everything already.

So I put what I think can/did happen out there and it can get corrected to an extent. Looking stupid is fun, especially if you learn something.
 
rietrot said:
Because some of us(me) don't know everything already.

So I put what I think can/did happen out there and it can get corrected to an extent. Looking stupid is fun, especially if you learn something.
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Let's make up our own OP. Let's say:

A pensioner, out for a morning walk and wearing a face shield, stopped and suddenly collapsed, blood oozing out of their left ear. They were pronounced dead after paramedics arrived, who also found the deceased's feet to be a yellowish-brown colour. The pensioner's family believes the headband of the face-shield caused severe hemorrhaging on the front-left of said pensioners brain. Official reports say the pensioner died COVID-19.
 
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rietrot said:
The mask would definitely be a contributing factor.
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It would not.

Megan Hall

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Hi friends! I have seen numerous posts and heard people complain they “can’t breathe with a mask on” or they won’t wear one because “oxygen levels drop dramatically while wearing a mask”. Also, “a mask doesn’t protect you from breathing in the virus” but in the same sentence argue they won’t wear one because they are “rebreathing their exhaled carbon dioxide”. I’m not sure how one can even make sense of this theory; if you really believe the virus is penetrating the mask and you’re breathing it in, how do you also believe your exhaled CO2 is getting “stuck”? Viruses need a vector to spread, COVID-19’s vector is respiratory droplets, those droplets aren’t readily getting through a properly worn mask.
As a follow up to my previous post about wearing face masks, I did a little experiment.
Below is me in 4 scenarios. I wore each mask for 5 minutes and checked my oxygen saturation (shown as the percentage below) along with my heart rate (HR, in beats per minute) using noninvasive pulse oximetry. Keep in mind, immediately prior to this, I had been wearing the surgical mask for 5 hours.
Results:
No mask: 98%, HR 64
Surgical mask: 98%, HR 68
N95 mask: 99%, HR 69
N95 plus surgical mask (which is how most healthcare providers are wearing masks): 99%, HR 69.
There is no significant change in my oxygen saturation (or HR) in any scenario. Though maybe inconvenient for some, you can still breathe.
As a physician, I urge you and ask you to please wear a mask to protect yourself and those who cannot safely wear a mask (many of my patients because they are under 2 years old). Unless you are face down with a knee on your neck, I’m confident you can still breathe.
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Science bitch!
 
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