DA Election manifesto launched

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My point, which you seem to blatantly ignore since it doesn't fit with your agenda, is that the only city that isn't run by the ANC has a reputation of being the best run city in the country, is clean, wins awards that actually mean something.

Kind of says something about the leadership of the city doesn't it?

Oh, and its Mrs Helen Zille, she does have a name and she is married
You're not being logical here.
If Cape Town is indeed the best run, then what are you comparing it to?

The more Durban declines, the better Cape Town will become. Is that what you're saying??

(Ms. is a title well used for professional people who are married)
 

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How about I compare it to all of the metros in this country where it shines... and it gets compared to international metros where it does pretty well as well.

I am being perfectly logical here, you on the other hand seem to be attempting to twist logic to suit your own agenda...

Like Nameofbest says, she goes by Mrs Helen Zille... and you continue to directly insult her with no basis for that insult.
 

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How about I compare it to all of the metros in this country where it shines... and it gets compared to international metros where it does pretty well as well.

I am being perfectly logical here, you on the other hand seem to be attempting to twist logic to suit your own agenda...

Like Nameofbest says, she goes by Mrs Helen Zille... and you continue to directly insult her with no basis for that insult.
If it is an insult, which again you assume. It's a phrase used in mainstream media as well. As far as bases are concerned, it fits with the accusation that she's interested in appearances rather than substance, hence the Botox jibe. But then shower-head would be more your line for politicians you DONT like, hey?
 

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You mean that person who used to be the DG of the Ministry of Communications who attempted at every turn to hinder the progress of telecommunications in this country?

There was and still is a reason to insult her... Mrs Zille, nope no reason.

There is no irony at all other than that which you seem to think exists.
 

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Please show where in mainstream media she is commonly called Ms Botox now?

Again, I am failing to see how you link the showerhead thing for JZ, which is a valid social commentary, to calling Mrs Zille, Ms Botox. And if she cares about how she looks, how does that detract from her message to the voters? You have heard of branding, and all of that have you not? She is now the face of a political party, and you can't have that person looking old and worn-out
 

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Not wanting to feed the troll (as I have done in previous threads) and not wanting to get overly political, as someone who actually lives in Cape Town, I can safely back up the claims that it has been a lot better since the DA has been in charge. I am talking about the areas which I frequent, being the area from the CBD to the Southern Suburbs. Other areas I cannot comment about.
 

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Not wanting to feed the troll (as I have done in previous threads) and not wanting to get overly political, as someone who actually lives in Cape Town, I can safely back up the claims that it has been a lot better since the DA has been in charge. I am talking about the areas which I frequent, being the area from the CBD to the Southern Suburbs. Other areas I cannot comment about.
The CCTV system which doesn't work. The official parking attendants who rip you off at every turn, the drug dealing in the Main Rds which go unchecked. The potholes, the rubbish, the taxis (yes they come under the Metro police), the Metro police themselves (under the mayor), the lack of road maintenance, unresponsive council officials, the choked up dying rivers, ... yes, it's definitely far far better, especially if you live in Durban :rolleyes:
 

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Wonder why the friends I have that live there don't b1tch and moan about those things like you do huh ....... very strange that.
 

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Wonder why the friends I have that live there don't b1tch and moan about those things like you do huh ....... very strange that.
I don't do that, I respond to manifestos and DA claims. If they shut up, I wouldn't say much. The fact is that they make lofty claims, but there is no substance. That's the nub of my argument, whether I agree with their policies or not.
 

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News on CT has been much better since the DA took over which is no mean feat seeing that the ANC is running the SABC. The DA's manifesto is also great, let's hope they take the Western Cape this election.
 

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Sackboy, if I were the DA, and I saw the absolute rubbish you write, pursuing a personal agenda, with little or no facts to back you up, I would feel most justified in confining your little rants to the garbage bin.

Now grow up.
 

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If it is an insult, which again you assume. It's a phrase used in mainstream media as well. As far as bases are concerned, it fits with the accusation that she's interested in appearances rather than substance, hence the Botox jibe. But then shower-head would be more your line for politicians you DONT like, hey?

Yup, I prefer to stare at "pretty boy" Zuma. If botox could help him, I would go for it!
 

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Sackboy, if I were the DA, and I saw the absolute rubbish you write, pursuing a personal agenda, with little or no facts to back you up, I would feel most justified in confining your little rants to the garbage bin.

Now grow up.

When are you people going to learn that Sackboy is a monumental troll and doesn't deserve any response? He has proved this on numerous threads.
 

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Sackboy, if I were the DA, and I saw the absolute rubbish you write, pursuing a personal agenda, with little or no facts to back you up, I would feel most justified in confining your little rants to the garbage bin.

Now grow up.
I didn't write in to the paper calling Zille's bluff on the answering e-mail claim, other people did. Do they also have a personal agenda or maybe you are far too much of a fanboi to accept that she can make mistakes or, God forbid, lie! Why should I vote for a liar?
 

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Nope, no irony. You are alone in feeling that Ms. Stalin-Mofele deserves defending. You heart Poison Ivy and her (former) assistant? :p
I am not defending that person or the other. What I am pointing out is your double standard. If you can't see it, then you shouldn't debate if you don't want to get pwned again.:D
 

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There is a world of difference between calling someone, who systematically held back telecommunications in this country, Stalin-Mofele, and calling someone who has worked hard for the upliftment of all people Ms Botox (of which I'm still waiting for the evidence that this term is used by the mainstream media, I've searched and couldn't find any credible reference)


Its not a double-standard at all.
 
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I didn't write in to the paper calling Zille's bluff on the answering e-mail claim, other people did. Do they also have a personal agenda or maybe you are far too much of a fanboi to accept that she can make mistakes or, God forbid, lie! Why should I vote for a liar?

We definitely are not trying to get you to vote for the DA. This is your democratic right to choose. However for you to insult an honourable woman with more guts than any political leader any where in this country today is just not right.......If you want this country to be run by this closed group of cronies from the ANC/COPE you may gladly vote for them. Keep this in mind though, in every muncipality we have a good service record...........If you watched this event on tv you would have seen the stats as presented by Joe Seremane

Crime in the inner city in CT is down by more than 80% since the DA took over. There was more houses build than in any other muncipalty which is not governed by the DA.

Now I also want you to ask yourself this question......Are you just going to keep on complaining about what has not been done YET or are you going to bring about change and vote DA.......One nation, One future...
 
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