DA People (Posters)

larrychang said:
don't think we can base our vote only on what the parties are promising. most of it is bull twak & all of them promise the same thing anyway.crime, corruption, jobs, blah, blah, lies, more lies,...
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Thats the same as any country during election time
capetownguy said:
These are meant to be so called "educated" individuals.
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Some of them are "learning". Last week we were doing an installation at a university. At lunch time a few of the students showed us were to get food and we started talking. Somehow it got onto politics, and one of the PHD students s told us that he was part of the ANC youth league and the Uni SRC. He said that he was disgusted with what his party was doing and how its leaders were representing them. He also mentioned that when ever he went to a rally, he falls asleep listening to the BS they all talk, But for some reason he couldn't stop listening to Zilla when ever she was on the TV as she just had a way of making you listen.

Most of the other students agree'ed, but most also said they would just not be voting because they disagree with thier party. It seems like many people in SA follow one party regardless of the ideals. Until this mentality changes, nothing else will
 
I finally contacted Ruan Smith who runs the DA facebook group and asked him the same question.
The response I just got is:

The three people on the posters represent the diversity of DA supporters. They are not there as someone in the DA (although they are all associated with the DA in some way), but were selected as models representing ordinary supporters. Their names are Lindiwe, Rodney and Clyde.

Lindiwe Mazibuko happens also to be a candidate for Parliament, but she was photographed for the poster long before she became a candidate - so that's not why she's on the poster.
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So it seems that they are not in fact candidates (except for Lindiwe who is a Kwazulu Natal candidate) and are possibly not even members of the DA. They are 'models' who are somehow vaguely "associated with the DA in some way".

In my opinion this is underhanded and misleading.
They are trying to brand themselves, like they are advertising a product,
creating an image that does not reflect who they really are (Theunis Botha anyone?).

It seems to me that the DA is Helen Zille and everyone else is a side issue who must not be seen or heard.

I personally have great difficulty voting for a party who is dishonest in this way.

They will say there is no rule that candidates must appear on posters but as a voter I want them to simply tell me who the candidates are and present them to the public. Not some pretty models. They are trying to create a brand but it appears the brand is so far from the reality (which they are obviously afraid to show - hence the 'models') it's actually an insult to the voters intelligence.
IMO
 
joelus said:
In my opinion this is underhanded and misleading.
They are trying to brand themselves, like they are advertising a product,
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How so.. Thats exactly what I believed it was from the very beginning, I'm not in advertising, and I am in no way associated with any Political party? It also means your initial assumption was incorrect. Other than the person I think you were actually "interested" in

Your pulling at straws trying to justify your reasoning behind voting ANC as var as I am concerned. Voting posters have become more than just a display of people, its become an art form used to capture peoples attention. Search google and you will find that some people believe the current USA elections was turned because of well done posters, and even in SA there people who are saying that COPE released there political posters way to late and have lost.

It wont surprise me if I see an article in the paper in the next few days calling the DA liars for their posters, and I look forward to the reporters being slammed with the responses
 
Kalvaer said:
How so.. Thats exactly what I believed it was from the very beginning, I'm not in advertising, and I am in no way associated with any Political party? It also means your initial assumption was incorrect. Other than the person I think you were actually "interested" in
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You're right, my initial assumption was incorrect, that's what's so disappointing. The DA was becoming a real option for me but now I can't bring myself to vote for a party that misleads like that. You present one face to the world when the reality is totally different :-(
Kalvaer said:
Your pulling at straws trying to justify your reasoning behind voting ANC as var as I am concerned.
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I'm pulling at straws? Perhaps you should actually read my posts - I've been quite clear that I will NOT be voting for the ANC and am looking for an alternative...

Kalvaer said:
Voting posters have become more than just a display of people, its become an art form used to capture peoples attention. Search google and you will find that some people believe the current USA elections was turned because of well done posters
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Show me one single official poster from the USA that had the face of someone who was not a candidate on it! What the DA doing is marketing gimmickry - like Helen's botox - they make pretty on the surface and hide the reality...
 
Makes me think about the Da's "supporters" on the sabc election debates on Sundays and on the "The big debate" on enews channel.Every single one of them are black.Now normally the colour would not be a problem,but since i know better,i feel they are trying to paint a picture that is absolutely not true...same with their posters.
 
JustAsk said:
Makes me think about the Da's "supporters" on the sabc election debates on Sundays and on the "The big debate" on enews channel.Every single one of them are black.Now normally the colour would not be a problem,but since i know better,i feel they are trying to paint a picture that is absolutely not true...same with their posters.
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Politics...

The ANC is trying to show Zuma as somebody with high morals. Zuma the honorary minister :rolleyes: :eek:
 
Indeed that is politics for you! They try certain tactics to pull votes from areas they don't usually acquire. Like Lekota speaking at the Bryanston Rotary club to a bunch of whites. Same thing!
 
JustAsk said:
Makes me think about the Da's "supporters" on the sabc election debates on Sundays and on the "The big debate" on enews channel.Every single one of them are black.Now normally the colour would not be a problem,but since i know better,i feel they are trying to paint a picture that is absolutely not true...same with their posters.
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Lindiwe is a candidate for the DA

The other two Rodney and Clyde is both signed up members of the DA.:D
 
Joelus... stop wasting your time... forget the posters.

If you have to, concentrate on the posters in your suburb only
look up those people... if you can't... find one's that will
from there make your choice... on what they stand for and how
they would like to improve the lives of ALL...

If you are not sure who to vote for... vote to balance the power
this will get the politicians working together... and on their toes
If only power was more balanced... this country would be better off... IMO
 
Joelus, good luck searching for an honest politician :D
 
joelus said:
I know the posters aren't that big a deal, I just felt personally deceived at the time, but now that I've had some time to think about it, it's not such a big deal. I wasn't planning on voting for the DA anyway, so I don't know why I got so upset. I am impressed with Lindiwe Mazibuko though based just on what I read here:http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71619?oid=121847&sn=Detail
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Presumably, Mr Xulu would welcome the conclusion reached in the recently-released Local Government Budgets and Expenditure Review, published by the National Treasury, that more than a quarter of South Africa's municipal employees are in non-existent positions as "political" appointments, in defiance of official employment procedures. It would not bother him that, as a result, many of our poorest citizens find themselves without clean water, housing, working clinics or functional roads, because local government has now been "transformed".
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I was also impressed by her reply, I also believe Musa's article was over the top and inflamatory. (I have ANC blood running in my veins by the way) But I beg to differ with her last paragraph. The poorest citizens she is refering to have never had any of those basic services before. The rich always enjoyed such services and still do regardless of transformation.
It seems that she is unjustifiably making a scapegoat out of transformation for things that were never there in the first place.

I would imagine that the squatter camps in the DA (untransformed) run municipality of CT have all disappered or at least enjoy a better service deliver than the rest of the informal settlements in the country.
 
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JungleBoy said:
The poorest citizens she is refering to have never had any of those basic services before. The rich always enjoyed such services and still do regardless of transformation..
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That specifically reminds me of the time I spent in Russia. There was no middle class to speak of really, Only the rich, and the poor. When Communism "disappeared". One thing happened. The middle class become rich, The rich got richer, the government and the previously disadvantaged become even richer.. and the poor... just got poorer. There was a matter of, if you really wanted to better yourself. You could, and usually did.

I wonder how much of that is happening here. With the advantage of the BEE to make the rich even richer right now, and the poor, even worse off. But who do we all blame...?????

I was having a discussion with my workshop manager this week and I said the current taxi problem is an unsolved problem of the old government. He laughed at me and said... Dont tell me you are now also blaming aparthied for the BS in this country.. you sound like the ANC.. and I am an ANC member and it sounds just as bad if not worse coming out of your mouth....

Yes.. I fell over laughing and couldn't stop until my sides hurt
 
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