Data on international roaming: DON'T!!

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There's a couple of threads here, and some posts on hellopeter (e.g.), about very high data charges if you use data while on international roaming.

MTN publishes voice (R5 per min, send or receive) and SMS rates (R1.50 to send, free to receive), but doesn't publish data rates (because, I think, they vary with each international network) - just "currently much higher than local rates". They do make it clear that data bundles don't apply.

In response to some complaints, they announced (here - but the page isn't loading today) they would send an SMS when you first connect in a new country, with the rates; and take some other actions which I can't recall.

So ... MTN's out-of-bundle rate is R2/MB. I was in Botswana, and the main network there is Mascom. They and the second network, Orange, charge BWP3/MB which at current exchange rates is about R4.50/MB.

Let's assume both costs apply and a huge markup, say 100%, for admin and extra accounting and billing. That would mean as much as R13/MB.

Not quite.

I finally got an answer yesterday from the 1555 data support centre (and it took them a while to look it up): R306.15/MB (at least 50 times as expensive as the already expensive Mascom Botswana charge). Plus a 100kB minimum, so if your phone checks email headers in a session of 10kb, that will still cost ~R30.

They confirmed there is no way to block data roaming while enabling voice and SMS roaming - unless you block all data with a service called GPRS NO, which you'd then have to remove when you returned to SA.

So don't use data when roaming! Switch off every data function on your phone!

Dr_Data or anyone from MTN, can you explain the very high charges? Can there really be actual costs this high? Conversely, if it's simply a business MTN doesn't want and you're trying to discourage it, why not do more to make the likely level of costs clearer?
 
By contrast, I see mention R110 or R150 / MB rates for various countries (this year) in posts in the Vodacom section.

And Vodacom do have comprehensive rate information at http://www.vodacom.co.za/rchp.do - looks like data on Mascom Botswana, for any kind of Vodacom contract (I checked 3 or 4 packages) is R33.31. MTN's is 9 times higher.
 
froot, it may not be new to you, but it was to me, so thanks for all your help

I doubt that the high prices will change or be explained, but MTN needs to publish them or somehow make them clear to customers in advance.
 
There's a couple of threads here, and some posts on hellopeter (e.g.), about very high data charges if you use data while on international roaming.
Hi
Can you PM me some specifics? Like the itemised billing for those transactions etc. I will look into the charges and see what the rates are.
Regards
DD
 
Dr_D, unfortunately the charges have still not reached my account (eta: fair enough as they've probably got to be accounted by Mascom Botswana and then sent to MTN) so I can't say what amounts might be incurred, but I will when they show up. They were from Mon 1st and Tues 2nd ... then (a) I got a local SIM and (b) began to realise what the charges might be, so I'm not using it any more.

Thanks for looking into it.
 
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Hi
Can you PM me some specifics? Like the itemised billing for those transactions etc. I will look into the charges and see what the rates are.
Regards
DD

We get charged a hefty sum from the foreign provider to make use of their data facilities, regardless of country im afraid...
 
Snakepit

I am very familiar with roaming data rates etc. It is expensive but not something like R500 per MB and varies quite considerably as per Country and Network. Hence my request for him to send throught some specific details so I can investigate.

Regards
DD
 
Dr_D - the rate of R306.15 per MB was quoted to me by the 1555 data help desk. That's all I know!

All my roaming voice and SMS calls show up on MTN Active, and all "PSD calls" made from SA, but no roaming data yet. Until it does, I'm happy.
 
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