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arr0w said:
If lets say a site like news24 run an article about childhood obesity, will the following be regarded as hate speech?

Sally : " I blame the parents. If the parents are a slob the kids will be little slobs aswell. Fat people are disgusting"
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Refer to Lesson 1.
 
What is a pity is you often start with thoughtful, insightful opinion in comments in the early days of a website, but as it grows in popularity then the trolls, racists, sexists start appearing.

ArsTechnica had an interesting approach. They were considering closing their comments section, but were loath to do so as they were famous for great technical comments. So they instead instituted a policy of instant bans on anybody who's comment wasn't on topic, showed trollish behaviour, comment wasn't well reasoned, fanboy comments, fringe views, etc.
No warning. Instant ban
 
fragtion said:
CONTEXT. Do you know the meaning of this word? Yes, No voice. When I read an article I should be able to respond to it directly, or else there is room for controlled bias and bigotry. Yes, Bigotry.. isn't that Ironic? Nobody is going to find my random blog. That is the most absurd proposition I've ever heard, and only goes to show how uninformed you are about censorship and its implications. I stand by my initial comment. Here's the last letter of the word: t.
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Again, you're the one making a mountain out of a mole hill here. I have a slight suspicion you are actually the reason that privilege has been removed now on IOL and News24. You're welcome to part take on here with relation to articles being posted and put your views across. Just bare in mind that the crap you got away with there won't fly here.
 
News websites/forums with comments sections are best avoided. They're just filled with 13yo mods with hormone problems who are hell bent on world domination, and a whole bunch of whiny users who are as irritating and banal as a Jehovah's witness with no sense of humor.

Oh wait :eek:
 
fragtion said:
CONTEXT. Do you know the meaning of this word? Yes, No voice. When I read an article I should be able to respond to it directly, or else there is room for controlled bias/propaganda and bigotry and similar unethical agendas. Yes, Bigotry.. isn't that Ironic? Nobody is going to find my random blog. That is the most absurd proposition I've ever heard, and only goes to show how uninformed you are about censorship and its implications. I stand by my initial comment. Here's the last letter of the word: t.
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A company is under no obligation to provide you with a platform. No one will find your blog? Sounds like your problem to me, not theirs nor anybody else's. You have the right to say what you want within the law on your own site. That is where the law ends
 
Beerisgood said:
News websites/forums with comments sections are best avoided. They're just filled with 13yo mods with hormone problems who are hell bent on world domination, and a whole bunch of whiny users who are as irritating and banal as a Jehovah's witness with no sense of humor.

Oh wait :eek:
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hmmmm....

/ponders the ArsTechnica approach
 
Pitbull said:
Again, you're the one making a mountain out of a mole hill here. I have a slight suspicion you are actually the reason that privilege has been removed now on IOL and News24. You're welcome to part take on here with relation to articles being posted and put your views across. Just bare in mind that the crap you got away with there won't fly here.
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Technically you can pull the same crap here.

Use a vpn
Register a random email address with discus
Make sure that the email address has no link to other social networks etc.

Final step. Go ham
 
daveza said:
So a once bastion of press freedom has bowed to the 'oooh I'm so offended' mob.

It won't end here.
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It's not so much about being offended. I think it's more that any real discussion with substance becomes impossible because comments get buried under constant insults and other troll one liners. Imagine if every myBB thread descended into posts of one line insults... Oh wait....
 
arr0w said:
Technically you can pull the same crap here.

Use a vpn
Register a random email address with discus
Make sure that the email address has no link to other social networks etc.

Final step. Go ham
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Sure, but it will be moderated and racist comments and the likes are quick to disappear. Account will get banned eventually and rinse and repeat on any other subsequent accounts to follow. MyBB is pretty clean when it comes to hate speech, racism and the likes. It might not be squeaky clean, but sure as hell as clean as possible.
 
Pitbull said:
Again, you're the one making a mountain out of a mole hill here. I have a slight suspicion you are actually the reason that privilege has been removed now on IOL and News24. You're welcome to part take on here with relation to articles being posted and put your views across. Just bare in mind that the crap you got away with there won't fly here.
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What can I say, Enjoy your comments while they last.... because we're well on the road to 1-way traffic akin to China. Glad you're willing to keep silent about it, because I'm not. So you can suspect all you want - but that amounts to nothing, because the reality is very simple: I vocally detest suppression of the public voice (censorship). There is nothing more to it than that. And yes, it is a matter of mountainous concern to me, even if it's only a molehill to you. I don't deny/regret that one bit! Alas, let the fools loathe in their ignorance I suppose. The consequences will affect all of us, and they too will learn
 
Sherbang said:
It's not so much about being offended. I think it's more that any real discussion with substance becomes impossible because comments get buried under constant insults and other troll one liners. Imagine if every myBB thread descended into posts of one line insults... Oh wait....
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O wait what?

Just because someone doesn't agree with you it's garbage and not allowed to be viewed? Ok then :D
 
Pitbull said:
Sure, but it will be moderated and racist comments and the likes are quick to disappear. Account will get banned eventually and rinse and repeat on any other subsequent accounts to follow. MyBB is pretty clean when it comes to hate speech, racism and the likes. It might not be squeaky clean, but sure as hell as clean as possible.
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I have to agree. You do find some hate speech, racism, but it gets removed pretty quickly after it gets posted.
 
Pitbull said:
Sure, but it will be moderated and racist comments and the likes are quick to disappear. Account will get banned eventually and rinse and repeat on any other subsequent accounts to follow. MyBB is pretty clean when it comes to hate speech, racism and the likes. It might not be squeaky clean, but sure as hell as clean as possible.
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I also think the demo for mybb isnt the same for news24.

I think there are more tolerant people here in general.
 
fragtion said:
What can I say, Enjoy your comments while they last.... because we're well on the road to 1-way traffic akin to China. Glad you're willing to keep silent about it, because I'm not. So you can suspect all you want - but that amounts to nothing, because the reality is very simple: I vocally detest suppression of the public voice (censorship). There is nothing more to it than that. And yes, it is a matter of mountainous concern to me, even if it's only a molehill to you. I don't deny that one bit
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I will never keep quiet on censorship. This is not censorship though. You need to understand the difference to see why this is not an issue. Not even remotely.
 
arr0w said:
I also think the demo for mybb isnt the same for news24.

I think there are more tolerant people here in general.
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Agreed, but I'm pretty sure that even the most tolerant people on here would not stand for the things being posted on News24 and IOL in the comment sections. Damn, 1/2 of Marine's posts disappear from time to time and I have no issues with the bulk of them.
 
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