Dear reader, we're closing comments (IOL)

fragtion said:
Wrong.

Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.

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No need to hyperlink. I can only suspect you pulled it from wiki as it serves your opinion/view
 
Sherbang said:
Not providing a platform for comment is not censorship though. Nobody with a website is obliged to offer a platform for comments
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I concede to this. But if they were hosting a platform before, and removed it now, then they have implemented a policy of censorship. This is blatant, regardless of perceived interpretation. THIS is where I take issue. Yes, as a private company they can do it at their discretion, BUT that doesn't mean we'll take it well
 
fragtion said:
That is 100% irrelevant. I do not contest that ToS in any way/shape/form, nor do I feel that I have I violated it in any way/shape/form. Of course mybb has the right to remove offensive/inappropriate material, but we're discussing something else here: outright censorship of comments on public news platforms, whether those news sites are privately owned or not. What does a blanket censorship policy on IOL have anything to do with the removal of isolated infringements on this site?
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JStrike said:
No it's not. They are a news site. Their job is to provide news. Providing a platform for people to comment was something they used to do, but they no longer want it provide said platform. That is not censorship
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I guess the newspapers we buy on the corner in the morning is censorship too right? I mean I can't comment on those articles /facepalm

Some people really don't belong on the internet at all :D
 
IdlePhaedrus said:
Whatever happened to "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Beatrice_Hall

This whole debate is making me a bit nauseous. :sick:
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Nothing. You have a right to say whatever you want. Doesn't mean I'm obliged to create a platform for you though. If you have something to say, create a blog and say it. Nobody will stop you
 
fragtion said:
I concede to this. But if they were hosting a platform before, and removed it now, then they have implemented a policy of censorship. This is blatant, regardless of perceived interpretation. THIS is where I take issue. Yes, as a private company they can do it at their discretion, BUT that doesn't mean we'll take it well
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No. They are a private company. They are under no obligation to keep any feature on their website. They can change their website how they feel fit
 
Sherbang said:
Nothing. You have a right to say whatever you want. Doesn't mean I'm obliged to create a platform for you though. If you have something to say, create a blog and say it. Nobody will stop you
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Don't moan when you don't like the rules of a system that someone else is paying for.
 
Sherbang said:
Nothing. You have a right to say whatever you want. Doesn't mean I'm obliged to create a platform for you though. If you have something to say, create a blog and say it. Nobody will stop you
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Whatever, I am not asking you to, and certainly I can, but it will always rely on some third party of some sort, that is that nature of the net.

That is not the point.

What MDs posts are pointing to (if you care to read the details) is that in the country where you and I live in, Expression, of whatever kind is being shut down. That should worry you too.
 
JStrike said:
No. They are a private company. They are under no obligation to keep any feature on their website. They can change their website how they feel fit
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So you deny that by them suddenly removing all comments, where all comments were previously permitted - that this is a prime case of censorship? I have already agreed that a private company can exercise their right to offer services at their discretion so I'm not sure why you insist on hammering that point home. My point is this: comments were allowed, and an explicit change happened so that now they are denied. My argument is that such an action is what we call censorship. Whether they have a justifiable reason FOR it or not, it's still censorship, in the literal sense of the word, as this action now prevents us from offering our own views in response to their content, where we would have been able to do so before. It's a shame that we've reached a point of arguing semantics, because the issue is far deeper and more sinister, and frankly, since all of us comprise the general public, it does concern me that we should even have to debate it at all, or that any of you are on the other side of the fence with this. This is to your own detriment really
 
fragtion said:
So you deny that by them suddenly removing all comments, where all comments were previous permitted - that this is a prime case of censorship? I have already agreed that a private company can exercise their right to offer services at their discretion so I'm not sure why you insist on hammering that point home. My point is this: comments were allowed, and an explicit change happened so that now they are denied. My argument is that such an action is what we call censorship. Whether they have a justifiable reason FOR it or not, it's still censorship, in the literal sense of the word, as this action now prevents us from offering our own views in response to their content, where we would have been able to do so before. It's a shame that we've reached a point of arguing semantics, because the issue is far deeper and more sinister, and frankly, since all of us comprise the general public, it does concern me that we should even have to debate it at all, or that any of you are on the other side of the fence with this. This is to your own detriment really
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Once again you miss the point, they are not preventing your from airing your views. They just choose not to publish it. You are free to publish it far and wide on your own.
 
fragtion said:
Fun to have no voice? Idio.... In the interest of mybb keeping comments open, I won't complete the word.
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MickeyD said:
And this is not referring to the relevant post, but just to point out where things start going wrong....

Why can we not exchange opinions, ideas, proposals, criticism, etc. without attacking the person?
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I t was bound to happen as the foundation was laid on page 7 already see quoted post above
 
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