Death by debt

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I find these results very interesting. I thought men would be less likely to go for debt counselling ....

Men more likely to seek debt help

Men are far more likely to seek help for debt than women, debt counsellor Consumer Assist said.

"Our research shows, after evaluating more than 20 000 client files, that men are far more likely to go for help than women," it said in a statement.
Consumer Assist CEO Andre Snyman said nearly 58% of his organisation's clients were men -- with white and black men more likely to seek help than coloured males.

"Coloured men were half as likely to go for help as white men, and a third less apply for debt counselling than black men."

He said Indian men were the least likely to seek help. Only 5% of the men on its books were Indian. "White women are a third more likely to seek help when they are under financial stress than black women. However, coloured women, although they are less likely to seek help than black women, follow not far behind," he said.

Indian women were the least likely to seek help -- only four percent of women requesting debt counselling were Indian.

Snyman said Consumer Assist had yet to delve further into the reasons for the differences in applications. However, "our debt counsellors have told us that single women, especially those who are single parents, are more likely to apply for debt review".

"But very many women are under debt review because they are married in community of property," he said.

Members of the Indian community helped one another through relatives or religious organisations. "This may be why fewer people from Indian communities come forward for assistance."

40% of children growing up in single-parent households
Snyman said the figures showed far more awareness needed to be created in black communities about debt counselling and how it worked.

"White people apply for assistance in far greater numbers than their demographic profile would suggest. And with 40% of children growing up in single-parent households, usually with a mother and with high rates of maintenance defaulting, it is surprising that women are less likely to come forward for help than men."

Snyman suggested that debt counselling campaigns needed to place greater emphasis on education programmes in black communities, and among women.
He said one factor that might make married women less likely to come forward "is that they often don't want to reveal how over-spending or poor budgeting may have seen a crisis emerge within the family finances".

Debt counsellors frequently had to mediate very heated discussions between spouses, and often encouraged them to go for marriage counselling.

While many faith communities tried to assist families meet financial shortfalls by providing groceries, and helping to pay light and water bills, school fees or rent, "many are becoming so overburdened by demands within their communities that they too can no longer cope", Snyman said.

http://www.health24.com/news/Other/1-934,51974.asp
 
Ahh. Stats.

The fact that a low percentage of a "group" (I thought we were past all this:erm:) go for counselling means that they don't get into debt in the first place. This is a good thing!

Cash is king!
 
For women, it's just a normal thing to be in debt.
They have dad and a bf to bail them out.

Sexist.

Ever since I started working many moons ago, I have not once asked my parents or a man to 'bail me out' !

Do you know who Muhammad Yunus and the Grameen Bank is?

Ahh. Stats.

The fact that a low percentage of a "group" (I thought we were past all this:erm:) go for counselling means that they don't get into debt in the first place. This is a good thing!

Cash is king!

Or it simply means that, demographichally speaking, if ethnic group A is the majority, more of its members will be in serious debt.
 
Yep, and from what I observed women are usually the ones that are more proud than the men. I've seen women hold back their man from doing the right thing just because "what the neighbors might think"

I've seen a woman buy stuff from pick'n'pay, and re-pack her groceries in woolworths bags just so when she goes outside people think she bought higher quality or whatever she thought people thought (this was back in the day where you didn't pay for bags or got those reusable ones)
 
Realist. ;)
That's just how it rolls for women.

Good for you that you can stand on your own feet with Mr Blu. :)

1. I am financially the most responsible in our house ;)

2. I see you avoid the question about the Grameen Bank. Chicken :)

Yep, and from what I observed women are usually the ones that are more proud than the men. I've seen women hold back their man from doing the right thing just because "what the neighbors might think"

I've seen a woman buy stuff from pick'n'pay, and re-pack her groceries in woolworths bags just so when she goes outside people think she bought higher quality or whatever she thought people thought (this was back in the day where you didn't pay for bags or got those reusable ones)

This is not really true. There are lots of men who are just as snobby .. must drive a certain car, must play golf at Club A, must drink JW Blue, etc.

You can just as well admit it.
 
1. I am financially the most responsible in our house ;)

2. I see you avoid the question about the Grameen Bank. Chicken :)

..t.

I'm sure you are, does Mr Blu spend his money on other things?

I care about ABSA bank, not worried about the others.
 
Yes, you claim that to be the case.

However there have been many allegations that you are in fact Indian.
There are reputable sources for this.

I am white alf.

What does it matter in any event? You act like skin colour matters :sick:
 
This is not really true. There are lots of men who are just as snobby .. must drive a certain car, must play golf at Club A, must drink JW Blue, etc.

You can just as well admit it.

Never claimed all men aren't. Just that women tend to be more "OMG we can't go for debt counselling!!! NOOO!!" While a man would go, "Damn, I can't afford this anymore, I have to go for debt counselling"

Not saying anything about the snobby bit, it's the pretentious bull**** women do so that "others" won't think xyz about them that I'm saying could be leading to this statistic that a man is more likely to seek out help when in financial trouble but that a woman would sit there getting notice after notice after notice until she literally can't anymore.

I've seen women skip on rent but buy handbags and shoes. Some of them even had kids. So I'm thinking here "Wouldn't your first priority be to pay rent so you have a place to stay..."

Excuses that there's credit or that it was on sale is bull-willy-crap

But anyway.

Never said all men. Never said all women. Never said all species of the human race.
 
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