Difference between Olarm and IDS HYYP

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Hi All,

Has anyone used both Olarm and IDS HYYP modules to manage your alarm from your phone? Any differences or preferences?

I see Olarm have a month subscription, something like R45/month over 24 months for their dual SIM cards, HYYP no subscription, both just have R1300+- hardware costs
 
I use the olarm, costs about 650 per year, works extremely well, easy to setup
 
Any other feedback on this?

Anyone got the hyyp? Is it any good or is the app trash?
 
richjdavies said:
Any other feedback on this?

Anyone got the hyyp? Is it any good or is the app trash?
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I have the hyyp and it works for me. I can arm and disarm my alarm, bypass zones, see which zone was triggered when the alarm went off etc. All from my phone.

My Hyyp runs on a vodacom sim if not mistaken, so I guess it might fail to communicate to the security company if the bodacom network is having issues.

Lastly, I am paying more to have it instead of the normal radio they install.
 
karnuffel said:
No not that I know of. That is setup on the alarm itself as far as I am aware
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Thanks for the feedback!

I'm a little bit overwhelmed by the options to be honest. I was told that hyyp has no monthly fee, but if there is a SIM then there has to be surely? Also bit concerned about what you said about radio Vs this, I thought it would be both, not either or...

Getting a new panel and want a hyyp/Olarm as part of it, but also aware that say Olarm can do X and Y with IDS but X,Y and Z with Paradox... Then I have an installer who thinks IDS is better, but hyyp is expensive...

Anyone got any recommendations as to whether the PGM / gate controllers etc. are worth linking up?
 
Have IDS, the app is rubbish but guess it works well but UI isnt great. I dont have any recurring costs either than the upfront subscription, cant recall the amount. Its sim card based but i was having issues with network which they switched out to MTN without actually changing the sim which was nice. however i have this intergrated into HA so works nicely. Only issue with the IDS is you cant see active PIR in use outside of when they are triggered when armed.
 
I disconnected my Olarm, for some reason with it connected my DSC just keeps complaining a device is no longer on the keybus at random intervals. Once I took it off everything is fine and stable.
 
richjdavies said:
Hmmm... Does it let you change zones or manage partitions or not?
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It doesn't on the DSC. Its actually just pretending to be a Panel from what I can gather. i think maybe on the Texecom's where it plugs into the serial port, more can be done.
 
I'm using Olarm. Over all it's good and haven't had any issues with it and seems reliable which is the most important thing.

Just wish it has a bit more flexibility, e.g. being able to set up different profiles (like Sleep, Stay, etc.) so that I could bypass certain zones and arm just that specific profile. That'd be nice.
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
I'm using Olarm. Over all it's good and haven't had any issues with it and seems reliable which is the most important thing.

Just wish it has a bit more flexibility, e.g. being able to set up different profiles (like Sleep, Stay, etc.) so that I could bypass certain zones and arm just that specific profile. That'd be nice.
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What panel do you have -- as it implies you CAN do that with Olarm and Paradox?
 
richjdavies said:
Thanks for the feedback!

I'm a little bit overwhelmed by the options to be honest. I was told that hyyp has no monthly fee, but if there is a SIM then there has to be surely? Also bit concerned about what you said about radio Vs this, I thought it would be both, not either or...

Getting a new panel and want a hyyp/Olarm as part of it, but also aware that say Olarm can do X and Y with IDS but X,Y and Z with Paradox... Then I have an installer who thinks IDS is better, but hyyp is expensive...

Anyone got any recommendations as to whether the PGM / gate controllers etc. are worth linking up?
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There is an IP and WIFI version of HYYP which doesn't use a sim card.

Additionally HYYP integrates very nicely with Dahua CCTV Cameras and IOT management
 
richjdavies said:
Thanks for the feedback!

I'm a little bit overwhelmed by the options to be honest. I was told that hyyp has no monthly fee, but if there is a SIM then there has to be surely? Also bit concerned about what you said about radio Vs this, I thought it would be both, not either or...

Getting a new panel and want a hyyp/Olarm as part of it, but also aware that say Olarm can do X and Y with IDS but X,Y and Z with Paradox... Then I have an installer who thinks IDS is better, but hyyp is expensive...

Anyone got any recommendations as to whether the PGM / gate controllers etc. are worth linking up?
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As an integrated security company our go to alarm systems is the IDS X64 with HYYP. One reason being that it integrates well with our CCTV offering of Dahua, another being the no nonsense wireless functions. We also are fond of the Ajax System, where customers are prepared to spend a little more. We have gates and lighting connected to the PGM /IOT aspects on IDS with no problem.

We recently had a customer replace their paradox systems with a wireless ids X64, rather than go through the issues of upgrading the paradox systems and devices, with compatability between older devices and newer systems being rather uncertain.

gensixtech.co.za
 
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BrandonJ said:
There is an IP and WIFI version of HYYP which doesn't use a sim card.

Additionally HYYP integrates very nicely with Dahua CCTV Cameras and IOT management
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What type of IOT does it integrate into? How do we get more control via Home Assistant?
 
Getit said:
What type of IOT does it integrate into? How do we get more control via Home Assistant?
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Basically anything that you can plug into the programmable outputs on the panel or connect to a relay.
 
Getit said:
Thanks @BrandonJ

Do you have some tech docs describing how one can make use of this?
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It's very rudimentary. Many alarm systems that claim iot seem to have it as add ons, it's not the main thing and it's not done well.

At this stage you would just be using triggers and programmable outputs on the HYYP
 
Looking at this again now.

So pro's for Hyyp:
- No subscription on IP version (not a huge one for me - as subscription keeps it live!)
- It's IDS on IDS panel... (better for my installer, but he's determined to overprice this which is annoying!)
- It has camera area on the app so it shows you camera for the area that's alarmed

Cons
- Hyyp app looks like a highschool project... just amateurish design
- Cameras it supports are DVR + Harddrive kind of stuff... feels again ancient tech - my fibre is more reliable than a hard drive and I have little want/need for 24/7 recording to be honest...

What I want:
- When we're away and the alarm goes off:
A. Know what's gone off
B. Maybe see using an IP camera (preferably in the same app, but if a different app, so be it)
C. Disable / bypass so the alarm doesn't keep going off
X. // not sure if possible normal - but DONT send the alert to ADT to turn up without me seeing it first?

So do I go:

Hyyp + Dahua DVR + Cameras?

Olarm + Seperate IP Camera with app (e.g. Hikvision?)

Or something else?
 
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