Different speeds, xp vs vista

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Hi guys

I just signed up for the prime uncapped yesterday and have been testing it out. When i first installed the device it was on an XP machine and i was highly dissappointed with the speeds. It ranged anywhere from 100kbps to 800kbps, but mostly sub 300. Then i decided to connect the device to a vista 32 bit machine and proceeded to get speeds well above 1000kbps consistantly. So i went one step further and set up ICS (internet connection sharing) from the vista machine and redid the speed tests on the xp machine while using ics from the vista machine (lol, what a mouth full). This resulted in decent speeds that were once again consistantly over 1000kbps. Did the same in reverse and the vista machine then scored below 500kbps while using the xp shared connection. I therefore came to the conclusion that the drivers for xp must be to blame.

My questions here are:

Anyone having the same issues with xp? and;

Would anyone please check the driver versions on their machines and compare them to mine?

The vista machine:
Dupont BC2703 modem: 2.0.3.0
Dupont BC2703 Diagnostic interface: 2.0.3.6
The XP machine:
Dupont BC2703 modem: 2.0.5.0X
Dupont BC2703 Diagnostic interface: 2.0.5.0X

Thanks guys
 
rtzouves said:
Hi guys

I just signed up for the prime uncapped yesterday and have been testing it out. When i first installed the device it was on an XP machine and i was highly dissappointed with the speeds. It ranged anywhere from 100kbps to 800kbps, but mostly sub 300. Then i decided to connect the device to a vista 32 bit machine and proceeded to get speeds well above 1000kbps consistantly. So i went one step further and set up ICS (internet connection sharing) from the vista machine and redid the speed tests on the xp machine while using ics from the vista machine (lol, what a mouth full). This resulted in decent speeds that were once again consistantly over 1000kbps. Did the same in reverse and the vista machine then scored below 500kbps while using the xp shared connection. I therefore came to the conclusion that the drivers for xp must be to blame.

My questions here are:

Anyone having the same issues with xp? and;

Would anyone please check the driver versions on their machines and compare them to mine?

The vista machine:
Dupont BC2703 modem: 2.0.3.0
Dupont BC2703 Diagnostic interface: 2.0.3.6
The XP machine:
Dupont BC2703 modem: 2.0.5.0X
Dupont BC2703 Diagnostic interface: 2.0.5.0X

Thanks guys
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I suspect this is a driver issue...
I have similar issues with 2 XP machines - one is AMD with an Nvidia chipset - it flies. The other is a notebook with an intel chipset - similar speeds to your funny XP one... I was using the same router over Cat5.
It's very irritating.
All on 4Mbps ADSl btw.
 
I'm betting its not the OS that caused the improvement, but rather you moving the device to the other PC = better signal.
 
No thats deffinately not it. I get 4 bars (full signal) no matter where i am in the house as our signal is excellent and wouldn't explain it anyway as the 2 computers are less than 30cm apart and the device itself doesn't move when switching which pc it is connected to.
 
oh yes and i have even tried it on a third computer running xp with exactly the same results as the first. So it is deffinately something to do with the operating systems/drivers. Do you guys perhaps want to check what drivers you are running?
 
rtzouves said:
No thats deffinately not it. I get 4 bars (full signal) no matter where i am in the house as our signal is excellent and wouldn't explain it anyway as the 2 computers are less than 30cm apart and the device itself doesn't move when switching which pc it is connected to.
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In that case congrats. Maybe this will help someone else to get max speed.
 
lol, thanks. Will be glad if it helps someone else, but unfortunately the device needs to be used on the xp machine so doesn't help me much though. hehe.
 
What service packs you running on both MS O/S ?
 
That was the same thought i had initially as i was running sp2 on both xp machines, but then i updated both of them and retested only to get the same results. Vista (sp1 by the way) was still consistantly almost double the speed. Good thought though :)
Anyone have driver versions for me to compare to?
 
rtzouves said:
lol, thanks. Will be glad if it helps someone else, but unfortunately the device needs to be used on the xp machine so doesn't help me much though. hehe.
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Vista and XP handle networking in hugely different ways. Oh, and I just had a brainwave. Vista has IPv6 built in and XP does not...plus there was talk about Neotel being the first full IPv6 network in SA. Maybe that is somehow boosting the speed.

Connect it to the Vista box, go to command prompt and type
ipconfig >C:\VistaInfo.txt
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Then post the contents of that file here and do the same on the same for the XP box.
 
And to think finally there is a reason to upgrade to vista. :D
 
For the vista machine:


Windows IP Configuration


PPP adapter NeoConnect:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 41.174.10.199
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::393a:2a34:227e:d450%8
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:d5c7:a2ca:4e0:301d:d651:f538
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4e0:301d:d651:f538%11
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 12:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:29ae:ac7::29ae:ac7
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 2002:c058:6301::c058:6301

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 13:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

For the XP machine:



Windows IP Configuration





Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.5

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::2e0:4cff:fe00:e286%4

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1



PPP adapter NeoConnect:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 41.174.10.197

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 41.174.10.197



Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::ffff:ffff:fffd%5

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

as you can see, both neotel connections are running on ipv4
 
SharkBait said:
rtzouves, have you played any online games yet?
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Actually i am an avid crysis fan and am quite involved on the sgs server. My alias is Alfalfa. Tried playing yesterday on the server, but it was absolutely horrible. The problem isn't the high ping (ranged between 100 and even peaked 500 at times), but the inconsistancy was a killer. one second it was 100 the next it was 500. Reminded me of nightcrawler from x-men. Guys were teleporting all over the map. lol
 
rtzouves said:
as you can see, both neotel connections are running on ipv4
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Hmm. Next thing I can think of that could make a difference is that Vista auto-tunes the MTU and some other parameters. There is a command to force the auto-tuning to default levels....which could indicate whether the auto-tuning is causing this, but it could also destroy the nice d/l speeds on the vista box...so I don't think you should do that unless you are feeling adventurous.
 
thanks, but i think i will do my best to try other solutions first before reverting to the defaults. Kinda worried about messing it up and not being able to fix it. Still waiting on someone to give me driver versions and apparently neotel has two different "devices." one is a dupont and the other is a qualcomm or something. I have the dupont and essentially they are actually the exact same device, just running on different drivers. I even tried installing the other qualcomm drivers but of course windows won't recognise the drivers are for that device. was worth a try though. Got neotel techy coming in a few and hopefully he will be able to help me, but lets just say that after speaking with various guys from neotel i am not too confident in their abilities. Hopefully the techy proves me wrong though ;)
 
oh and by the way, I don't think vista is auto-tuning those parametres as neotel has its own connection management tool that sets everything up. I.E. you don't set up a connection via the setup connection wizard, the "idiot proof" neoconnect manager does it all for you and doesn't provide anything in the way of custom settings. Also if i scrutinise the connection this appears to be the case.
 
thanks cujo

Was an interesting read, however i can't believe that everyone else on xp is getting the same results as i am. If they were i think there would be an uproar as 100-200 kbps at times is absolutely horrific and no where near the expected average speeds neotel is quoting. Especially considering my perfect connection signal. I am quite sure that it does have some kind of effect, but not to the extent i am currently experiencing.

Thanks guys i really do appreciate the time you are taking to help me out.
 
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