Diginet

[Nerfherder]

With our current stability and having to fall back on vodacom on a weekly basis this is about half of what we have been paying.
Data usage at the moment is between 400 to 600GB per month and that should be a bit more, so low because the line crashes constantly.

The web dies, we lose around R800 to R2000 per hour...

What do you guys do ?

 

[AstroTurf]

medals, badges, buttons, trophies and many more items in a similar vein.
International clients (Berlin marathon, London marathon, tour de France and such as an example).
Local would be two oceans, comrades and such.

Lots of our stuff is going cloud now, accounts, backups, client management, tracking & tracing, communications, sales etc.

Ya know, keeping ahead of our (mostly first world) competition.

 

[Dubai]

Hi bud
Who is your ISP
Who do you apply with to get a diginet line

 

[HavocXphere]

Speaking of awesome connections...recently was on a link with 2ms to google servers.

 

[web_dude]

Bout 8K per month.

For that price you could be getting a 10mbps fibre from Neotel.... And if no fibre in your area, they might be able to give you a microwave link (same 10mbps symetrical).

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

For that price you could be getting a 10mbps fibre from Neotel.... And if no fibre in your area, they might be able to give you a microwave link (same 10mbps symetrical).

According to the post it sounds like all the alternatives were explored. I'm sitting in the same spot. No fibre, no MW, nada. Waiting patiently for Telkom to upgrade the exchange as we're not paying that money for diginet.

 

[eddief1]

Bout 8K per month.

That seems very high for 2Mbps, O-TEL is offering a fiber or copper based solution at half the cost, 1:1, symmetrical, etc.

 

[ponder]

Plus I think this is running on Fibre, haven't seen synchronous speeds on diginet before

Diginet has always been synchronous.

 

[b@nD]

Size counts ( NOT )

lol, just to add, biggest router I have seen in my life (we wanted upgradibility).

PICS
or
mine is BIGGER

 

[b@nD]

EtherLink

Diginet has always been synchronous.

It is also not necessarily 1:1
Other options exist
( They had options with other contention ratios 1:5 )
but
I see Telkom have dumbed down their descriptions on their web pages
( pretty much tells you nothing now )

Telkom Business Diginet

This one is interesting

EtherLink

One really needs to do a LOT of homework to find the best ( cheapest ) option.

 

[ponder]

It is also not necessarily 1:1

No you are confusing issues. Diginet is always 1:1 synchronous.

Diginet is a layer 2 service. Know your OSI layers.

You are comparing it to layer three offerings from ISPs where they offer you different contention ratios and 'asynchronous' speeds happening at layer 3 which still run on diginet at layer 2. Diginet just acts as a transport for the upper layers.

If you connected a diginet circuit between two routers you will get full synchronous speeds with no contention, end of story. Should you however connect your router to an ISP router via diginet they will provide you a customised layer 3 package to suite your needs and charge you accordingly. The layer 2 service NEVER changes, the only thing that varies is the service that runs on top of it.

 

[The_Unbeliever]

With our current stability and having to fall back on vodacom on a weekly basis this is about half of what we have been paying.
Data usage at the moment is between 400 to 600GB per month and that should be a bit more, so low because the line crashes constantly.

The web dies, we lose around R800 to R2000 per hour...

Then it makes sound financial sense in having a Diginet line.

 

[AstroTurf]

For that price you could be getting a 10mbps fibre from Neotel.... And if no fibre in your area, they might be able to give you a microwave link (same 10mbps symetrical).

Nope and nope. (tried) also, 8 month wait for installation and at one hell of a cost (laying fibre and all).

 

[b@nD]

LAN / WAN -- L2 / L3

No you are confusing issues. Diginet is always 1:1 synchronous.
Diginet is a layer 2 service. Know your OSI layers.

I always thought that Diginet had to be routed ? point to point and a static route ? ( with variations )
The cable you use to the NTU is NOT Ethernet
The HWIC / WIC int( to connect to the NTU ) is a WAN interface

Does MPLS run on top of "Diginet" ?????

EtherLink IS a layer 2 service

Should you however connect your router to an ISP router via diginet they will provide you a customised layer 3 package to suite your needs and charge you accordingly.

So what are the Telkom Business ( SAIX ) offerings then ?

I remember there were a number of options -- Silver , Gold , Platinum ( something like that )
Not reflected on the web pages now ........

 

[AstroTurf]

First time working here that I have been able to stream radio all day without a single interruption

 

[ponder]

I always thought that Diginet had to be routed ? point to point and a static route ? ( with variations )
The cable you use to the NTU is NOT Ethernet
The HWIC / WIC int( to connect to the NTU ) is a WAN interface

I'm not sure what the relevance is.

So what are the Telkom Business ( SAIX ) offerings then ?

I remember there were a number of options -- Silver , Gold , Platinum ( something like that )
Not reflected on the web pages now ........

They are selling you an IP service, diginet (amongst others) is merely a transport medium and a prerequisite to deliver said IP service at the end of the day.

 

[b@nD]

OSI Layers & WAN & LAN

I'm not sure what the relevance is.

In my mind ( which is not to say that this is the correct way of looking at things )

I always seem to think of Layer 2 as being ethernet ( LAN -- not Routed )
and
Layer three as being some form of WAN (not ethernet -- Routed )

They are selling you an IP service, diginet (amongst others) is merely a transport medium and a prerequisite to deliver said IP service at the end of the day.

SO
What is the layer 2 portion of ADSL ? ( ATM ? )

Telkom used to have quite a nice little publication that explained in technical detail what all these offerings were and how they worked.

All gone into the same hole in which an efficient international level education system has gone

 

[ponder]

In my mind ( which is not to say that this is the correct way of looking at things )

I always seem to think of Layer 2 as being ethernet ( LAN -- not Routed )
and
Layer three as being some form of WAN (not ethernet -- Routed )


SO
What is the layer 2 portion of ADSL ? ( ATM ? )

Telkom used to have quite a nice little publication that explained in technical detail what all these offerings were and how they worked.

All gone into the same hole in which an efficient international level education system has gone

No offence but your mind is in the wrong 'place'. have a closer look at layers 1 & 2 of the OSI model.

Hopefully someone else can explain it better than I can.

 

[AstroTurf]

LOL, so diginet does not help when it comes to major cable theft

Back to 3g for now

 

[Amphibious]

Swap them around in your head
Hope this helps,

In my mind ( which is not to say that this is the correct way of looking at things )

I always seem to think of Layer 2 as being ethernet ( LAN -- not Routed )
and
Layer three as being some form of WAN (not ethernet -- Routed )