Dis mos Woes in Afrika

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DAKAR, Senegal — At least 90 women have been raped and 180 villagers killed over the past two months by rebels as well as government forces in volatile eastern Congo, a top human rights group said in a report Thursday.

New York-based Human Rights Watch said it documented the rapes, killings and burning of dozens of villages by the Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda, or FDLR.

That force is made up primarily of Rwandan nationals who fled across the border into Congo after orchestrating Rwanda's 1994 genocide of a half-a-million people. Their continued presence in Congo 15 years later has been a major point of contention between the Congolese and Rwandan governments _ and in January, Congo allowed Rwandan troops to enter the country in a joint effort to root out the FDLR.

But while the offensive led to capitulation of dozens of the rebels, who turned themselves in to U.N.-organized repatriation camps, the military operation was devastating for civilians.

"The FDLR are deliberately killing and raping Congolese civilians as apparent punishment for the military operations against them," said Anneke Van Woudenberg, a senior researcher at Human Rights Watch and an expert on Congo.

Woudenberg says that the militia was temporarily pushed out of their military positions in January and February, but after the withdrawal of Rwandan troops on Feb. 24, the FDLR reoccupied many of their former bases.

Among the attacks documented is the murder of a 10-year-old girl who was battered against a brick wall in the village of Kibua on Jan. 27 _ one of the rebels' former bases. Dozens of other civilians were hacked to death by the rebels.

While the majority of the killings are being carried out by the Rwandan militia, Human Rights Watch also found evidence of major abuses by the Congolese army, which is chronically ill-disciplined.

Last month, a group of women from the town of Ziralo were stopped by troops at a checkpost. They gang raped them. One of the four women was six-months pregnant and suffered a miscarriage as a result of the rape, said the rights group.

In the most recent development, 10 people were killed in clashes in the town of Uvira in eastern Congo on Thursday morning, said Dr. Alois Kabana, the medical inspector for Uvira. The governor of the town, Louis Muderwa, says armed men attacked the local prison to liberate detainees. Locals immediately pointed the finger at the Rwandan militia. Muderwa declined to say if the FDLR was involved, saying an investigation had been launched.

The United Nations estimates that a quarter-of-a-million people have fled their homes in eastern Congo since the military operation began. That's in addition to hundreds of thousands of others who fled earlier outbursts of violence.

Among the sources of instability cited by Human Rights Watch is the fact that the Congolese army has recently added 10,000 new soldiers who were previously fighters for local rebel groups. These ex-rebels turned themselves in, as required under a U.N.-organized reintegration plan, but the process is flawed, says the rights group.

"The rapidly mixed brigades of former enemies have been sent to the front lines with no salaries, rations, or any formal training, increasing the likelihood of future human rights violations," Human Rights Watch said in a statement.

Among the former rebels integrated into the regular army are Bosco Ntaganda, who was recently promoted to the position of general. He is wanted on an arrest warrant by the International Criminal Court for enlisting child soldiers and is accused of commanding the rebel troops that massacred 150 villagers in the town of Kiwanja last November.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/09/mass-rape-and-violence-in_n_185078.html

isede's ebuntu live and well in africa

 

[isede]

Your heart is in Europe the body is in Africa . . You are only African by paper , in your heart the overwhelming stench of hate chokes your very Africaness . You show no mercy for the people in this story and try and distort the teachings by bringing up murder . Even the individual in Europe will feel sorry for these `people` , but you jump around on these poor souls` misfortunes like some crazed hyena . Most probably you want recognition for acknowledging our `savagery` by your other tin-can right wingers . If you celebrate the misfortune of our people there is nothing constructive that we can work on . I would rather talk to real Africans (inclusive of indians , arabs and whites ) not your swollen belly , hill-billy, I-am-african-when-it-suits-me-type.

You can go on and ban me but then I ask why you let someone celebrate such things ??

 

[rebel998]

What/who do you regard as an African?

 

[seventhson]

You have to be a black for isede to be happy. He does not relise Africa is a *** place

 

[seventhson]

Your heart is in Europe the body is in Africa . . You are only African by paper , in your heart the overwhelming stench of hate chokes your very Africaness . You show no mercy for the people in this story and try and distort the teachings by bringing up murder . Even the individual in Europe will feel sorry for these `people` , but you jump around on these poor souls` misfortunes like some crazed hyena . Most probably you want recognition for acknowledging our `savagery` by your other tin-can right wingers . If you celebrate the misfortune of our people there is nothing constructive that we can work on . I would rather talk to real Africans (inclusive of indians , arabs and whites ) not your swollen belly , hill-billy, I-am-african-when-it-suits-me-type.

You can go on and ban me but then I ask why you let someone celebrate such things ??

Maybe all non-AFricans should just go amd leave this country to rote do you think then you will be happy. I never claimed to be African I am proud that I am british. I even take you a bet in the end you will not even be african enough.

 

[isede]

You have to be a black for isede to be happy. He does not relise Africa is a *** place

You did say you are a proud British , so when I mean African maybe I dont include tourists .

When did I say you have to be black ? Indians in Africa are considered Africans by all but you dont hear them celebrating the misfortune of other individuals, like some overfed clowns around here .
Tell me how can I be American if I hate them?
Or an Arab if I hate them ?
We dont see Indians talking down on our people or worse still rejoicing the death of individuals because they are of a certain colour code . If you ask me some of you people are shameful , shameful , mindless cowards who hide behind the internet . Your only joy is spreading hate to your other mongers and your little vermin who will probably grow up to be more vernomous than you .

 

[isede]

Maybe all non-AFricans should just go amd leave this country to rote do you think then you will be happy. I never claimed to be African I am proud that I am british. I even take you a bet in the end you will not even be african enough.

I am a proud African , no 2 ways about it .
When did I say whites are not part of Africa ??

 

[nightjar]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/09/mass-rape-and-violence-in_n_185078.html

isede's ebuntu live and well in africa

RE. DAKAR, Senegal — At least 90 women have been raped and 180 villagers killed over the past two months by rebels as well as government forces in volatile eastern Congo, a top human rights group said in a report Thursday.

That seems quite mild in comparison to our home stats for rape and murder.

1 in 4 South African women will experience rape; 380,000 cases of rape occur annually in South Africa; and 95% of those raped are Black. The incidence of rape in South Africa is 1 of the highest in the world. Gang rape, jackrolling, is a cult among some youths. Young jackrollers in Soweto even aim to impregnate every woman under age 26 in the township. Among men, new inmates in male prisons are raped upon arrival by all members of any given cell; most of the perpetrators tend to lead heterosexual lifestyles outside of prison. The sexual abuse of children is also common in townships, yet is widely denied and rarely challenged. These episodes of sexual intercourse most likely occur without lubrication. A greater amount of friction therefore results with the increased potential for mucosal tearing and bleeding. Such conditions of unprotected, unlubricated sex with multiple partners increase the risk of transmitting and contracting HIV.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12286457

In Rhodesia the terrorists under Nkomo and Mugabe were renowned for the atrocities they carried out against villagers in rural areas. This included forcing individuals to eat parts of family members before they in turn were raped and murdered.

 

[isede]

Just like that Algerian writer put it , exactly , these are some of the effects of Colonisation and moreso Aparthied . These are some of the mental illnesses the Arab guy was talking about in his book .
Now I can see were this comes from , shameful that a man makes a general statement and celebrates the lose of life . I used to jump on the racists this , racists that , but now that I have carried out my investigations I can see that some of esp Blah need mental help .

 

[Nihilanth]

You're saying being considered inferior under Apartheid justifies rape? Sorry, it doesn't and it isn't Apartheid's fault. Raping to relieve frustration is evil and is the lone fault of the rapist.

 

[isede]

You're saying being considered inferior under Apartheid justifies rape? Sorry, it doesn't and it isn't Apartheid's fault. Raping to relieve frustration is evil and is the lone fault of the rapist.

I am talking about the threadstarter `s highly bigoted views towards Africa and Africans . They are signs of mental illness according to Frautz . 1st he gives a news clipping of events in DRC and then derides african goodwill of ubuntu by these events . One of the symptoms is an obsession of trying to show that africans are `Savages` .

 

[nightjar]

They are signs of mental illness according to Frautz .

Frautz??
I haven't come across him.
Is he an African?

 

[saffakanera]

I am talking about the threadstarter `s highly bigoted views towards Africa and Africans . They are signs of mental illness according to Frautz . 1st he gives a news clipping of events in DRC and then derides african goodwill of ubuntu by these events . One of the symptoms is an obsession of trying to show that africans are `Savages` .

"Among the attacks documented is the murder of a 10-year-old girl who was battered against a brick wall in the village of Kibua"


mmmm.....


But I have to agree with you, not all people are bad, I think its because democracy was introduced to Africa prematurely. Democracy took years of bloodshed and debate to be formed by the French, just plopping it down as a package on a civilization that pretty much consisted of Tribalism can lead to some major hiccups.

 

[nightjar]

because democracy was introduced to Africa prematurely. Democracy took years of bloodshed and debate to be formed by the French, just plopping it down as a package on a civilization that pretty much consisted of Tribalism can lead to some major hiccups.

African culture and democracy are mutually exclusive as shown by this list of some of the worst:
Tshaka, Dingaan, Mzilikazi, Robert Mugabe, Muammar al-Gaddafi, Jean Bedel Bokassa, Mobutu Sese Seko, Idi Amin, , Hastings Banda, Obiang Nguema, Omar Al-Bashir, King Mswati III, Charles Taylor, Joseph Kony, Gnassingbe Eyadema, Daniel arap Moi, Kenneth Kaunda, Jerry Rawlings, Julius Malema, Leonard Chuene & Butana Komphela.

 

[Good Life]

Your heart is in Europe the body is in Africa . . You are only African by paper , in your heart the overwhelming stench of hate chokes your very Africaness . You show no mercy for the people in this story and try and distort the teachings by bringing up murder . Even the individual in Europe will feel sorry for these `people` , but you jump around on these poor souls` misfortunes like some crazed hyena . Most probably you want recognition for acknowledging our `savagery` by your other tin-can right wingers . If you celebrate the misfortune of our people there is nothing constructive that we can work on . I would rather talk to real Africans (inclusive of indians , arabs and whites ) not your swollen belly , hill-billy, I-am-african-when-it-suits-me-type.

You can go on and ban me but then I ask why you let someone celebrate such things ??

If you are born in Africa, then you are african. White, brown, black whatever. Your overblown sense of pride is blinding you.

You are mistaken if you think africa is just for black people. There's loads of other ethnic groups who also consider africa their birthplace, and home.

Better get with the program!

 

[Arko2]

One of the Rebel Leaders is having a good live in Germany, connected to the Congo via Satelite Phone. Nice typical. of African Patriots

 

[NoLimit]

I am talking about the threadstarter `s highly bigoted views towards Africa and Africans . They are signs of mental illness according to Frautz . 1st he gives a news clipping of events in DRC and then derides african goodwill of ubuntu by these events . One of the symptoms is an obsession of trying to show that africans are `Savages` .

This appears to have touched a raw nerve. The thread starter has just posted an article from an Human Right's group. Are you saying that such savagery now largely confined to africa (a third world for perpetuity) should not be exposed? The perpetrators deserve all the vilification posters in this forum can muster. This is also expected from posters who perhaps feel some association with the savages through colour or by virtue of being african.

 

[Blah!Blah!]

This appears to have touched a raw nerve. The thread starter has just posted an article from an Human Right's group. Are you saying that such savagery now largely confined to africa (a third world for perpetuity) should not be exposed? The perpetrators deserve all the vilification posters in this forum can muster. This is also expected from posters who perhaps feel some association with the savages through colour or by virtue of being african.

Thank You No Limit but isede lives in his own world .. where the bad YT is trying to make things up about what goes on in africa, I posted it here since I was quite shocked that this kind of thing is not reported locally yet I find it on an american news site.

isede careful with the personal attacks bring counter facts that way you cannot put your foot in it hey! Don't shoot the messenger and all that..

One of the symptoms is an obsession of trying to show that africans are `Savages` .

lol I don't really have to try to hard now do I - after reading the article

 

[nightjar]

..... what goes on in africa, ..... this kind of thing is not reported locally yet I find it on an american news site.

The reason it's not reported locally is because it is so much a part of African culture that it doesn't merit a second thought.

Most of the unspeakable violence that happens in SA, irrespective of whether the victims are black or white, is not reported because nobody in authority cares about it.

The press only consider the occasional, bloody, spectacular crime newsworthy if it will sell more papers.





Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical Liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous Left-stream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. - Author Unknown

Political correctness is the evasive or dishonest denial in circumlocutory terms of actual reality and is intended to distort the perceptions of honest people. - George MacDonald Fraser

 

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Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical Liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous Left-stream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. - Author Unknown

Political correctness is the evasive or dishonest denial in circumlocutory terms of actual reality and is intended to distort the perceptions of honest people. - George MacDonald Fraser

nice quotes!!